Domestic United Flights Grounded
#11
My guess is you haven't flown the line for a while. Lots of required stuff now comes over on ACARS. Weights and runway numbers just to start. Basically, you can't go if you don't have it. Even if dispatch tried to get us all the info, directly I probably wouldn't. We still have the requirement to be contactable by dispatch at any given moment. No ACARS, no go.
You can dispatch a few flights with ACARS that are MEL'd inop...however, running an entire airline with ACARS inop becomes a huge hurdle.
#12
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My guess is you haven't flown the line for a while. Lots of required stuff now comes over on ACARS. Weights and runway numbers just to start. Basically, you can't go if you don't have it. Even if dispatch tried to get us all the info, directly I probably wouldn't. We still have the requirement to be contactable by dispatch at any given moment. No ACARS, no go.
#13
My guess is you have not been around long enough to know that airplanes flew for many years without ACARS. In fact you can still fly today without ACARS. It is in the FOM QRG 10.24 if you would like to familiarize yourself with the procedure.
You can dispatch a few flights with ACARS that are MEL'd inop...however, running an entire airline with ACARS inop becomes a huge hurdle.
You can dispatch a few flights with ACARS that are MEL'd inop...however, running an entire airline with ACARS inop becomes a huge hurdle.
#14
That's your prerogative. With 5 gens and able to autoland down to a single gen it's certainly in your wheel house to refuse for a single inoperative gen.....
#16
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We have a backup....really?
Last edited by cornbeef007; 01-23-2017 at 07:59 PM.
#17
The VHF AIRINC network meets those FAR requirements. Before ACARS, that was how airlines communicated with flight crews and is still used when the ACARS is inop. It is a hassle, but as long as the crew changes the appropriate frequency as they fly across the company, dispatch can always get a hold of the crew.
#18
My guess is you haven't flown the line for a while. Lots of required stuff now comes over on ACARS. Weights and runway numbers just to start. Basically, you can't go if you don't have it. Even if dispatch tried to get us all the info, directly I probably wouldn't. We still have the requirement to be contactable by dispatch at any given moment. No ACARS, no go.
Acars inop operations used to be in The FOM.
#19
Have we now improved things so that a single point of failure can shut down the entire airline?
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