Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 324467)

Well don't be jealous of the 170's. The chairs up front are slightly better than a plywood bicycle seat. Upgrades are what they are. I don't like it when people use that as an excuse to work somewhere because at the drop of a hat they could stall and you're stuck there. We want better FO pay and honestly I think we'll really get it. Odds are most the FOs you're talking to are new with the way upgrades have been going. Of course they'll say first year pay blows lol. I don't know any place that doesn't. Even ups.

Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 324306)

I just get sick of all these new FO's walking around PHL and DCA bragging about how "AWESOME" the 170/5 is how RAH isnt a regional and blah blah blah.

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed (Post 324147)

There's nothing funny about it. Just a logical conclusion. DAL and NWA would be swapping stocks. DAL would not be the one with majority control. At any case, in order for NWA/DAL to build up and "spinoff" as you say, they would need to expand Mesaba and Compass so they can fetch the best price. To do this, they are going to reduce flying doled out to regionals not owned by NWA/DAL. No such thing as an ironclad contract. We'll see in the coming years.

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 324201)

Apparently you're unfamiliar with scope clause at CAL, I don't really have time to educate you, but let me say it again (I know it hurts) YOU WILL NEVER FLY A 170 for CAL, unless you become a CAL pilot, and they agree to fly them....

The "regional" flying belongs to Continental Airlines, and they do what they please with it, they can give it to a company, and just as easily take it away.

Furthermore the preacher at RAH has stated over and over that you guys are to get away from 50 seaters, so by default I see the CAL flying going away, unless he's willing to invest on Q400's.

For someone that claims he's been in the industry as long as you say you have, you sure take things personal....

Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 324520)

No you are right....its crappy all across the board....but my point is that since its bigger equipment..maybe have it start slightly less crappy at like 28/29 an hour.

Hey any of you RAH guys know an Argentinian FO who goes by the name of "Lucky"???? I used to live with him...I know he had an interview scheduled with Polar Air...i just wanted to know if he got it or not

Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 324544)

I've developed a lot of inside 170 jokes with captains. Everytime you hear me refer to it as a regional jet on the radio...we're laughing afterwards :D I work here, and I've seen more than my share of exactly what you're talking about...it gets old quick. Especially when it's coming from someone that's 800 numbers below you on the seniority list. My fellow 145'ers can probably back me up on this.

Originally Posted by Joeshmoe (Post 324546)

You think NWA would have majority control??? Come on now..........

Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 324544)

I've developed a lot of inside 170 jokes with captains. Everytime you hear me refer to it as a regional jet on the radio...we're laughing afterwards :D I work here, and I've seen more than my share of exactly what you're talking about...it gets old quick. Especially when it's coming from someone that's 800 numbers below you on the seniority list. My fellow 145'ers can probably back me up on this.

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed (Post 324669)

No, I did not state that NWA will have the majority control. I said NWA and DAL will be swapping stocks. It will probably be an even swap. Neither DAL nor NWA will have the majority control. Who will manage the combined entity is anybody's guess, but it looks like the current DAL management might wind up running the combined airline.

Let me know if you have any information to the contrary. I'd be interested to learn about them.