tpersuit

Lets be more realistic ToiletDuck
For one, doesn't the 175 have 84 seats? And isn't your pay for 175/190 as well? The 190 has 108 seats.

NWA DC-9 5yr FO = $.59 per seat or $74/hr
RAH 175/190 5yr FO = $.43/$.34 per seat or $37/hr
RAH 175/190 5yr CA = $.97/$.71 per seat or $77/hr

NWA DC-9 10yr FO = $.66 per seat or $83/hr
RAH 175/190 10yr FO = $.43/$.34 per seat or $37/hr

NWA DC-9 10yr CA = $.99 per seat or $124/hr
RAH 175/190 10yr CA = $1.07/$.83 per seat or $90/hr

Looks like RAH would be really fun if you get stuck in the right seat!!!

stykerforce

Our CEO is way to much of a genius to let a major stop him from growing. Anyone who thinks differently, you will see. The days of majors calling the shots 100% of the time are slowly dwindling. I'll be seeing you all at the next Republic new hire class since all the majors are getting smaller and smaller.

STILL GROUNDED

So what you are saying the NWA DC9 pilots are overpaid? Honestly as hard as they have to work to get that Dinosaur in the air they should make more money. But like all things it too shall be extinct.

This should help figure out why we suck with a bit more accuracy. We are not payscaled on any aircraft it is all by seat. For what its worth we have 86 in the 175's at RW, I think the Shuttle Planes for Delta have 76 with a first class. And yes that leads to much whinning about why they don't get 175 rates, we don't have 175 rates its by seat configuration.

Directly from the CBA:

Captain’s Pay Rates will be as follows for 79 to 99 Seat Turbojet Aircraft:
Year Oct 1, 2007
1 $ 64.39
2 $ 68.17
3 $ 72.80
4 $ 75.07
5 $ 77.38
6 $ 79.78
7 $ 82.24
8 $ 84.79
9 $ 87.40
10 $ 90.13
11 $ 92.90
12 $ 96.20
13 $ 98.74
14 $ 101.80
15 $ 104.95
16 $ 108.09
17 $ 110.79
18 $ 113.56
19 $ 116.41
20 $ 119.32

First Officer Pay rates for all aircraft types are as follows:
Year Oct 1, 2007
1 $ 22.95
2 $ 30.88
3 $ 35.52
4 $ 36.62

Is it the best, nope! Is it the worst, nope? Are we negotiationg a new contract with payscales that don't suck so bad if we were to get "stuck" in the right seat at republic for the next 10 years, yep certainly trying too. Are they going to be industry leading, nope. (Ask Express Jet how industry leading works out. That's not a hit at expressjet only an observation.)

I'd love to have an industry leading payscales but when everyone else (pilot, see mirror) at every other company(look at paystub, insert company name) is trying to protect their bottom line and add growth to their company they will undercut it everytime.

Look, I am not pumping kool aid to you. I am just saying that we need to be looking at the mainline pilot groups to fix this. If they keep allowing the flying to be given away to the lowest bidder then it is going to diminish and things are going to come true. Republic and Skywest will be doing all domestic flying while the majors will be doing anything over seas. (Example: Midwest where Republic AND Skywest do more flying then their mainline aircraft.) Sit back as a mainline manager and collect all the money and tell me this wouldn't be the best case for them. They'd love it and if the mainline pilot groups continue to allow the flying to be handed out it will be every regional for itself and 10 years down the road you'll see what I've just told you and there will be regional merger mania.

DAL4EVER

I can't wait for my eyes to be opened so that I can truly see.?? If you think regionals trying to go it alone is a good thing, check the graveyard for such attempts and ask Independence, Expressjet, et al, how well it worked for them.

You have no brand, no reservations, no anything that makes you a real airline. You do have aircraft and are in essence a wet leasing company. You lease your airplanes and crews to any airline who will have you. I wish your CEO as well as others would challenge the majors in this regard. It would help us go a long way towards the thinning of the herd.

johnso29

So why did someone drag this thread out of it's grave?

Justdoinmyjob

Because apparently we don't have enough stuff to argue about.

unemployedagain

Is it true the EMB does nothing as what it advertised as far as passenger and bag loading and limits, heard alot of folks getting left behind, and those bag charges get expensive when left behind? RAH may be in trouble if longer legs are expected.

Dougdrvr

Yes, the stoies are true. Quite a few Midwest 717 flights have been delayed just to add RAH baggage that they can't carry. It doesn't happen real often 'cause their loads are ususally in the teens. I don't get it either, they are either taking horrible runway penalties or they are early model weight limited airplanes.

STILL GROUNDED

The only problems I've come accross are the long not so regional flights, ieallas/Houston from Philly. If we need an alternate at either end its a factor due to the fuel load. Other than that we go with a full bus quite often. First class would help on the longer legs, a couple less bodies and room for everyones mattress that they try stuffing in an over head.

The other thing that would be nice would be if the gate agents would get a freaking backbone and tell people its too big, you need to check it. And these entitled passengers who lay their coats out in a bin or put their laptop bags up top beside the coat and the 24" rolla board. You bought a seat, along with it came a set of rules, one bag over head one bag under the seat anything else gets checked. You wanna treat us like a cab, plan on being treated like you're in one.

Dougdrvr

This problem may just solve itself