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-   -   Just when you thought it was over, NWA tries to put it NWA/DAL together again. (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/mergers-acquisitions/24248-just-when-you-thought-over-nwa-tries-put-nwa-dal-together-again.html)

reddog25 04-14-2008 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 363116)
So If you can hold 757 Captain with the same QOL before and after the merger whats the problem?
Scoop
Scoop, I agree with relative seniority. As a 87 hire at NWA, I believe Rel senioroty would mix me in somewhere with the 93-94 DAL guys. Fine with me, if it means we all get a usable seniority number and can bid as openings become available without fences etc. As I have stated before this works for probably all but the bottom 700 or so at NWA and maybe 1000 at DAL. A different methodology would need to be established to ensure that in a shrinking airline the 2001 hire at NWA who was just recalled doesn't hit the street before the 2006 new hire at DAL. But I'm sure we can come up with various COAs and make an appropriate power point to both groups:)

757Driver 04-14-2008 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 363635)
Scoop, I agree with relative seniority. As a 87 hire at NWA, I believe Rel senioroty would mix me in somewhere with the 93-94 DAL guys. Fine with me.
Wow,

That's surprising. I most def. don't think that's fair at all.

Herkflyr 04-14-2008 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 363635)
As a 87 hire at NWA, I believe Rel senioroty would mix me in somewhere with the 93-94 DAL guys.
FYI, Delta hired until Jan 92. Then there was no hiring, then 3+ years of furlough. We started hiring again in fall 1996. That lasted until summer 2001, followed by 5+ years of furlough, etc. We started hiring again a few months ago.

757Driver 04-14-2008 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 363660)
FYI, Delta hired until Jan 92. Then there was no hiring, then 3+ years of furlough. We started hiring again in fall 1996. That lasted until summer 2001, followed by 5+ years of furlough, etc. We started hiring again a few months ago.

Wonder if Reddog would object being mixed in with the '96 hires?

DAL4EVER 04-14-2008 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 363661)
Wonder if Reddog would object being mixed in with the '96 hires?
Who cares if relative seniority would let him fly a 757 as a Captain vs. a DC-9.

capncrunch 04-14-2008 04:19 PM
Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 363663)
Who cares if relative seniority would let him fly a 757 as a Captain vs. a DC-9.
He is an A320 Captain not a DC9 Captain.

newKnow 04-14-2008 04:21 PM
Just got an email from CNN. Looks like its a done deal.

DAL4EVER 04-14-2008 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 363717)
He is an A320 Captain not a DC9 Captain.
Sorry. He can be an 757 captain or stay an A320 captain. Either way he wins.

StripAlert 04-17-2008 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 362805)
I see what you are getting at but since there is no national seniority list that should not happen. And while there is no way to make everyone happy relative seniority seems the fairest way to go. By straight DOH junior CAL captains would be crushed- lets hope by that time there will be some lessons learned from the current DAL-NWA fiasco.
They'll be crushed by relative seniority too. That's why it's a mess. You'd have to go to an equipment ratio, which comes with it's own complications.


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