Search
Notices
Mergers and Acquisitions Facts, rumors, and conjecture

I'm standing down

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-19-2008, 10:56 AM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
CVG767A's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2005
Position: 767ER capt
Posts: 1,190
Default I'm standing down

I started posting on these threads because I wanted to get the other side's point of view, as well as explain my viewpoint. What I read here leads me to believe that, for most of us, our ideas of what is fair is not all that different.

I've realized now that the prior negotiations had no written record by design; the MECs wanted no paper trail to foul the waters of more traditional negotiations, and the possible subsequent arbitration.

We're debating the issues armed with incomplete information.This is causing tempers to flare, and the gulf between us to widen. I'm guilty of this also. All too often, I'll respond to a post without really reading what the other side has posted; I'm not the only one doing this. Our MECs have all of the data. I'm going to let them do their job.

I think that a deal is within reach, and that the combined company will prosper enough to improve all of our careers. I look forward to working with the NWA guys on the line.
CVG767A is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 11:53 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
newKnow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Default

Originally Posted by CVG767A View Post
I started posting on these threads because I wanted to get the other side's point of view, as well as explain my viewpoint. What I read here leads me to believe that, for most of us, our ideas of what is fair is not all that different.

I've realized now that the prior negotiations had no written record by design; the MECs wanted no paper trail to foul the waters of more traditional negotiations, and the possible subsequent arbitration.

We're debating the issues armed with incomplete information.This is causing tempers to flare, and the gulf between us to widen. I'm guilty of this also. All too often, I'll respond to a post without really reading what the other side has posted; I'm not the only one doing this. Our MECs have all of the data. I'm going to let them do their job.

I think that a deal is within reach, and that the combined company will prosper enough to improve all of our careers. I look forward to working with the NWA guys on the line.
Great post. I look forward to working with Delta guys/gals, too. Good luck to us all.
newKnow is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 12:37 PM
  #3  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 57
Default

Originally Posted by CVG767A View Post
I started posting on these threads because I wanted to get the other side's point of view, as well as explain my viewpoint. What I read here leads me to believe that, for most of us, our ideas of what is fair is not all that different.

I've realized now that the prior negotiations had no written record by design; the MECs wanted no paper trail to foul the waters of more traditional negotiations, and the possible subsequent arbitration.

We're debating the issues armed with incomplete information.This is causing tempers to flare, and the gulf between us to widen. I'm guilty of this also. All too often, I'll respond to a post without really reading what the other side has posted; I'm not the only one doing this. Our MECs have all of the data. I'm going to let them do their job.

I think that a deal is within reach, and that the combined company will prosper enough to improve all of our careers. I look forward to working with the NWA guys on the line.


CVG767A,

Great Post, I too stand down.
flyguy1012 is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 01:57 PM
  #4  
Line Holder
 
makoshark72's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: 75/76ER FO
Posts: 67
Default

FINALLY!! A sensible..and civil.. post! Thanks CVG!
makoshark72 is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 03:05 PM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: 330Fo
Posts: 215
Default

CVG,

I agree. I called my reps and told them that we should take the higher path and endeavor to work together. The myopic view is DAL vs NWA. The bigger picture is that we are on the same team and hopefully create a stable airline!
Opus is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 03:11 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 5-9 block, kill removing
Posts: 385
Default

Hopefully your two MEC's can be as civil and respectful. Hopefully they are that smart! The whole industry is hoping for the best, since you guys will lead the way.
Raging white is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 04:48 PM
  #7  
Looking for a laugh
 
Justdoinmyjob's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,099
Default

Originally Posted by Opus View Post
CVG,

I agree. I called my reps and told them that we should take the higher path and endeavor to work together. The myopic view is DAL vs NWA. The bigger picture is that we are on the same team and hopefully create a stable airline!
Just curious, if you don't mind, what was their answer?
Justdoinmyjob is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 06:26 PM
  #8  
Need More Callouts
 
757Driver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Unbridled Enthusiasm
Posts: 2,143
Default

Originally Posted by CVG767A View Post
I started posting on these threads because I wanted to get the other side's point of view, as well as explain my viewpoint. What I read here leads me to believe that, for most of us, our ideas of what is fair is not all that different.

I've realized now that the prior negotiations had no written record by design; the MECs wanted no paper trail to foul the waters of more traditional negotiations, and the possible subsequent arbitration.

We're debating the issues armed with incomplete information.This is causing tempers to flare, and the gulf between us to widen. I'm guilty of this also. All too often, I'll respond to a post without really reading what the other side has posted; I'm not the only one doing this. Our MECs have all of the data. I'm going to let them do their job.

I think that a deal is within reach, and that the combined company will prosper enough to improve all of our careers. I look forward to working with the NWA guys on the line.
I'll take a timeout from my self imposed exile and agree with CVG.

Excellent post.
757Driver is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 07:18 PM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
dtfl's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: Work
Posts: 506
Default

Originally Posted by CVG767A View Post
I started posting on these threads because I wanted to get the other side's point of view, as well as explain my viewpoint. What I read here leads me to believe that, for most of us, our ideas of what is fair is not all that different.

I've realized now that the prior negotiations had no written record by design; the MECs wanted no paper trail to foul the waters of more traditional negotiations, and the possible subsequent arbitration.

We're debating the issues armed with incomplete information.This is causing tempers to flare, and the gulf between us to widen. I'm guilty of this also. All too often, I'll respond to a post without really reading what the other side has posted; I'm not the only one doing this. Our MECs have all of the data. I'm going to let them do their job.

I think that a deal is within reach, and that the combined company will prosper enough to improve all of our careers. I look forward to working with the NWA guys on the line.
Ask NuGuy - he evidently knows everything
dtfl is offline  
Old 04-19-2008, 08:14 PM
  #10  
Underboob King
 
Superpilot92's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Guppy Commander
Posts: 4,412
Default

dtfl-this is a good thread why turn this into another worthless thread? enough with the flames from both sides.

Great idea guys. Bottom line is we dont have all the facts and lets hope both of our MECs can start working together. Cheers
Superpilot92 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jagplt
Cargo
17
02-29-2008 03:32 AM
FredEx
Cargo
33
12-05-2007 07:27 AM
HSLD
Major
51
11-09-2007 11:57 AM
purplepilot
Cargo
35
09-13-2007 04:00 AM
PurpleTail
Cargo
10
07-13-2007 07:13 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices