Delta, Northwest Prepare Merger Announcement
04-13-2008, 11:48 AM
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Delta, Northwest Prepare Merger Announcement
NEWS ALERT
from The Wall Street Journal
April 13, 2008
Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines have spent the last week readying their long-delayed merger announcement, with the aim of unveiling it as early as Tuesday, said people familiar with the matter. The airlines could go ahead without the support of Delta's 6,000 pilots. Delta and its pilots remained in talks over the weekend on a new post-merger contract that would cover that group only, leaving negotiations with Northwest's 5,000 pilots for a later day, these people said
from The Wall Street Journal
April 13, 2008
Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines have spent the last week readying their long-delayed merger announcement, with the aim of unveiling it as early as Tuesday, said people familiar with the matter. The airlines could go ahead without the support of Delta's 6,000 pilots. Delta and its pilots remained in talks over the weekend on a new post-merger contract that would cover that group only, leaving negotiations with Northwest's 5,000 pilots for a later day, these people said
04-13-2008, 03:42 PM
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Here's something off of another airline board:
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Very loose rumor, but first one I have heard for a while, so I figured what the hey.
Might be an interesting catalyst to see what a few of us think is or isn't fair if we can keep it from disintegrating into a slugfest.
Some initial thoughts. It is interesting. If you can look into it a bit, NWA does well on the top of the list-our guys take a hit. Delta then does well probably until the 98 or 99 hires, NWA guys take a hit. Then Delta does ok through the end of the list, while NWA guys get slotted in the bottom. Maybe favors the Delta guys a bit, until you throw in the 747 and 787 protections for the NWA guys, as well as the rebid. As I said, of course assuming it's true, everybody suffers, except the top NWA guys who make out like bandits on seniority AND on the 14% DC.
As always, it needs to be true, and the devil will be in the details. Discuss. Be nice.
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Very loose rumor, but first one I have heard for a while, so I figured what the hey.
Might be an interesting catalyst to see what a few of us think is or isn't fair if we can keep it from disintegrating into a slugfest.
Some initial thoughts. It is interesting. If you can look into it a bit, NWA does well on the top of the list-our guys take a hit. Delta then does well probably until the 98 or 99 hires, NWA guys take a hit. Then Delta does ok through the end of the list, while NWA guys get slotted in the bottom. Maybe favors the Delta guys a bit, until you throw in the 747 and 787 protections for the NWA guys, as well as the rebid. As I said, of course assuming it's true, everybody suffers, except the top NWA guys who make out like bandits on seniority AND on the 14% DC.
As always, it needs to be true, and the devil will be in the details. Discuss. Be nice.
04-13-2008, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Here's something off of another airline board:
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Very loose rumor, but first one I have heard for a while, so I figured what the hey.
Might be an interesting catalyst to see what a few of us think is or isn't fair if we can keep it from disintegrating into a slugfest.
Some initial thoughts. It is interesting. If you can look into it a bit, NWA does well on the top of the list-our guys take a hit. Delta then does well probably until the 98 or 99 hires, NWA guys take a hit. Then Delta does ok through the end of the list, while NWA guys get slotted in the bottom. Maybe favors the Delta guys a bit, until you throw in the 747 and 787 protections for the NWA guys, as well as the rebid. As I said, of course assuming it's true, everybody suffers, except the top NWA guys who make out like bandits on seniority AND on the 14% DC.
As always, it needs to be true, and the devil will be in the details. Discuss. Be nice.
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Very loose rumor, but first one I have heard for a while, so I figured what the hey.
Might be an interesting catalyst to see what a few of us think is or isn't fair if we can keep it from disintegrating into a slugfest.
Some initial thoughts. It is interesting. If you can look into it a bit, NWA does well on the top of the list-our guys take a hit. Delta then does well probably until the 98 or 99 hires, NWA guys take a hit. Then Delta does ok through the end of the list, while NWA guys get slotted in the bottom. Maybe favors the Delta guys a bit, until you throw in the 747 and 787 protections for the NWA guys, as well as the rebid. As I said, of course assuming it's true, everybody suffers, except the top NWA guys who make out like bandits on seniority AND on the 14% DC.
As always, it needs to be true, and the devil will be in the details. Discuss. Be nice.
04-13-2008, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
Do you guys like butter on your popcorn? I am making some right now for the show
REMEMBER GUYS, ULTIMATLY WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM!!
REMEMBER GUYS, ULTIMATLY WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM!!In the end, the one common denominator for all of us is I have an ALPA pin on the tie and boxers are my choice like most guys.
04-13-2008, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Here's something off of another airline board:
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Very loose rumor, but first one I have heard for a while, so I figured what the hey.
Might be an interesting catalyst to see what a few of us think is or isn't fair if we can keep it from disintegrating into a slugfest.
Some initial thoughts. It is interesting. If you can look into it a bit, NWA does well on the top of the list-our guys take a hit. Delta then does well probably until the 98 or 99 hires, NWA guys take a hit. Then Delta does ok through the end of the list, while NWA guys get slotted in the bottom. Maybe favors the Delta guys a bit, until you throw in the 747 and 787 protections for the NWA guys, as well as the rebid. As I said, of course assuming it's true, everybody suffers, except the top NWA guys who make out like bandits on seniority AND on the 14% DC.
As always, it needs to be true, and the devil will be in the details. Discuss. Be nice.
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Very loose rumor, but first one I have heard for a while, so I figured what the hey.
Might be an interesting catalyst to see what a few of us think is or isn't fair if we can keep it from disintegrating into a slugfest.
Some initial thoughts. It is interesting. If you can look into it a bit, NWA does well on the top of the list-our guys take a hit. Delta then does well probably until the 98 or 99 hires, NWA guys take a hit. Then Delta does ok through the end of the list, while NWA guys get slotted in the bottom. Maybe favors the Delta guys a bit, until you throw in the 747 and 787 protections for the NWA guys, as well as the rebid. As I said, of course assuming it's true, everybody suffers, except the top NWA guys who make out like bandits on seniority AND on the 14% DC.
As always, it needs to be true, and the devil will be in the details. Discuss. Be nice.
04-13-2008, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Here's something off of another airline board:
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Very loose rumor, but first one I have heard for a while, so I figured what the hey.
Might be an interesting catalyst to see what a few of us think is or isn't fair if we can keep it from disintegrating into a slugfest.
Some initial thoughts. It is interesting. If you can look into it a bit, NWA does well on the top of the list-our guys take a hit. Delta then does well probably until the 98 or 99 hires, NWA guys take a hit. Then Delta does ok through the end of the list, while NWA guys get slotted in the bottom. Maybe favors the Delta guys a bit, until you throw in the 747 and 787 protections for the NWA guys, as well as the rebid. As I said, of course assuming it's true, everybody suffers, except the top NWA guys who make out like bandits on seniority AND on the 14% DC.
As always, it needs to be true, and the devil will be in the details. Discuss. Be nice.
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Very loose rumor, but first one I have heard for a while, so I figured what the hey.
Might be an interesting catalyst to see what a few of us think is or isn't fair if we can keep it from disintegrating into a slugfest.
Some initial thoughts. It is interesting. If you can look into it a bit, NWA does well on the top of the list-our guys take a hit. Delta then does well probably until the 98 or 99 hires, NWA guys take a hit. Then Delta does ok through the end of the list, while NWA guys get slotted in the bottom. Maybe favors the Delta guys a bit, until you throw in the 747 and 787 protections for the NWA guys, as well as the rebid. As I said, of course assuming it's true, everybody suffers, except the top NWA guys who make out like bandits on seniority AND on the 14% DC.
As always, it needs to be true, and the devil will be in the details. Discuss. Be nice.
04-14-2008, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Here's something off of another airline board:
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
[I]
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
Disclaimer, the following is not my opinion and I did not create it. Please don't shoot the messenger:
[I]
Everything done.
Top 30% DOH
Next 30% 1:2
Rest 1:3
747,787 fenced Rebid the whole system in 1 year except fenced a/c. 14% DC and some form of equity.
Someone else had said the 330s and SEA, ANC bases also fenced. No Delta bases or equipment fenced.
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