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Old 04-16-2008, 04:50 AM   #31  
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Fact is that most of the guys that I fly with on the 767 are 50 or older.
How do I know? They tell me.
Lots of myth here.
Agreed. I flew with my first under 50 guy the other day and he just got on the airplane.
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If Delta only has 100 pilots over 50, then I guess I've flown with most of them! How does this stuff get started?!? Over 55 maybe.
By my count, more than 700 guys are age 55 or older.
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Well, I sure hope my MEC is considering more than just this type of argument. I certainly wouldn't have minded an equity payout, and a nice bump in the first year pay - and to work for the largest airline in the world (for now). But, No one is ever going to know what the SLI problem was....

...all this delay does is make the process more difficult, take longer, and foster more animosity. The deal is done either way.
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By my count, more than 700 guys are age 55 or older.
oppps!..... I almost inadvertently started another bad info myth. My bad!
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Old 04-16-2008, 05:23 AM   #35  
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You'll find the list on the Flight Ops page on Deltanet: Pilot Resources and Scheduling/Staffing Lists/Scheduled Retirements
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I don't think the number of DAL pilots over the age of 50 is the problem with a relative seniority list. A SLI done this way may be fine today, next month or maybe next year. The problem comes from the high number of NWA pilots that will retire in the next 5 years not 5-10. Assuming age 60, I have heard it is about 1,000. The mid-level seniority guys at NWA would not get the upward movement they have been waiting for under this type of SLI

Now if an agreement could be made that, for the next 5 years, when a NWA guy retires all former NWA guys move up to fill the open slot (same for DAL retiements) may be we could have a deal. Sort of a seniority fence.

Just for info, I was hired at NWA in early 1985 and am in the low 900's. I was 35 and will be leaving in 18mos. (age 60) so I only have a toy poodle in this fight.

Godd luck to all
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Other than a furlough scenarior, can someone tell me how relative seniority hurts me as a NWA guy? If I'm 10% from the top before the SLI (I wish!) and I end up 10% from the top after the SLI - how does that suck?
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See above post
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Other than a furlough scenarior, can someone tell me how relative seniority hurts me as a NWA guy? If I'm 10% from the top before the SLI (I wish!) and I end up 10% from the top after the SLI - how does that suck?
Northwest is wanting to preserve/gain their future retirements that outpace the current Delta model.
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Thanks maddog, looks like you slipped that post in while my small mind was busy contemplating. I'm with you on the retirement at age 60. Good luck with yours!
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