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Old 04-18-2008, 03:24 PM
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The Northwest MEC has intimated that they were not notified about the changing circumstances of the DL/NW merger. This is absolutely false. The NW MEC Chairman was notified the day after the DL MEC was notified that the merger was going to happen with the pilots or without the pilots. The NW Negotiating Committee Chairman was then notified the next day after the NW Chairman failed to respond (on vacation). He was invited to continue three party talks and was informed that the DL MEC would move forward on their own if the NW MEC declined. He acknowledged this.

The NW MEC did not respond any further for the next 9 days. By the time they started to call to take action it was too late, the merger was only a few days from announcement.

So their utter shock that DL was negotiating a deal was a nice little farce during the press conference, but it was just a little far from the truth. All along, the dysfunctional NW MEC has not been able to function as single unit, and this dysfunction led them to miss the train one more time. You can add this to they many different little fibs they have told over the last few weeks.
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The Northwest MEC has intimated that they were not notified about the changing circumstances of the DL/NW merger. This is absolutely false. The NW MEC Chairman was notified the day after the DL MEC was notified that the merger was going to happen with the pilots or without the pilots. The NW Negotiating Committee Chairman was then notified the next day after the NW Chairman failed to respond (on vacation). He was invited to continue three party talks and was informed that the DL MEC would move forward on their own if the NW MEC declined. He acknowledged this.

The NW MEC did not respond any further for the next 9 days. By the time they started to call to take action it was too late, the merger was only a few days from announcement.

So their utter shock that DL was negotiating a deal was a nice little farce during the press conference, but it was just a little far from the truth. All along, the dysfunctional NW MEC has not been able to function as single unit, and this dysfunction led them to miss the train one more time. You can add this to they many different little fibs they have told over the last few weeks.


All hearsay and rumor until you can posts facts from official publications. Your "very good source" doesn't cut it. If you're a DAL pilot, I don't really think you have to worry right now. If you're a NWA pilot, then you'd better start calling them everyday and voicing your opinion. That's what I'm doing.
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Okay, the Delta MEC invented this whole concept in the first place. We went to our management team and the Board of Directors and convinced them of the logic of including the pilots in the deal up front. We went to the major stockholders and convinced them that it would be worth it for them to give us some stock in order to facilitate the deal. We also went to several MEC's, including the Northwest MEC, and convinced them (by the way your MEC initially resisted the concept) to sign onto the process.

We then developed the entire Transaction Framework Agreement with the M+A attorneys that we hired and paid for. We also set up the negotiations with our management and the Board of Directors to get the returns we were seeking. The Northwest MEC shows up after Delta had done about 90% of the work and joined the negotiations.

After not one, not two, but three extended negotiation sessions, we still couldn't come to a deal on the SLI, even with the inducement of large amount of money to sweeten the deal.

So after all this prep work and all this effort, we get to the last two weeks before management said they were merging with or without us. You can chose to believe that just then the Delta MEC decided to exclude the Northwest MEC or you can chose to believe that once again the Northwest guys were a day late and a dollar short.

I know the conspiracy theories are much more fun to believe, and I can understand how your MEC, after screwing the pooch so badly, would want to throw darts at the Delta MEC. However, do you really think the more logical explanation of the situation is that the Delta MEC decided to screw the Northwest pilots, or they decided that they could not let the dysfunction of your MEC cheat the Delta pilots (and in the future Northwest pilots) out of important contractual gains.

I will leave that distinction for you to make. Either this was some grand conspiracy or it was the reaction to a group that would have a hard time organizing a lemonade stand, faced with a tough short notice decision and they couldn't even return a phone call within a week. What do you think is the most logical choice?
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Man i cant wait for this to be over with....
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Man i cant wait for this to be over with....
You and me both! We still have time to get together and make a great team. The LOA would never go into effect as a joint PWA complete with NEGOTIATED SLI could supersede and perhaps surpass it. From my lips.........
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The best response to all of this is the Delta chairmans letter put out today. It states the same basics the reps have been putting out. The point of his letter is that we have to work together and that LOA 19 is a asset not a threat to the NWA pilots. The offer to work only on a joint contract prior to a SLI means all the items posted about DALPA trying to screw NWA are invalid. LOA 19 will only make it easier to get a better joint contract. If NWA is serious they will get a team together and start a joint contract. They should send one team representing all the NWA pilots. There should not be red book and green book observers reporting back to factions like last time. Your MEC should appoint the committee, give them direction stand by their product. Once the joint contract is done the SLI can then proceed. It will almost certainly go to arbitration. I expect the Delta MEC to fight hard for my seniority. I also expect no less from the NWA side in fighting for their interests. What I don't expect from NWA is more red book/green book garbage. Show up with one merger committee and no observers. The sooner we get this behind the sooner we can start on building a world class airline. The ultimute future of both the NWA and Delta pilots lies far more with a strong profitable airline then any method for merging seniority lists.
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You and me both! We still have time to get together and make a great team. The LOA would never go into effect as a joint PWA complete with NEGOTIATED SLI could supersede and perhaps surpass it. From my lips.........
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Great posts guys lets try and keep this up!!
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I agree in fact i have a new avatar coming up. Standby
Hey I like that one.......any chance we can put it on a red tail. Wouldn't look any worse than the current "beach towl". <-----second worst airplane paint job AFTER the bowling shoe
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That avatar is FANTASTIC. It really should be TM'd and incorporated. Nice one.
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