Nwa Red/green/blue/black?
05-09-2008, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Wasatch, You are correct it was UAL. My mistake. However they still did not take a single Pan Am pilot.
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05-09-2008, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Carl, They did not take a single Pan Am pilot when they picked up the South American operation. That is what we were discussing not the Pacific operation.
Carl
05-09-2008, 07:17 PM
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Carl,
If you look at post 54 you'll see that UAL bought Pan Am's Latin American route authority in bankruptcy court after they had ceased operations. As such, ALPA's fragmentation policy didn't apply, and UAL didn't take any aircraft or pilots.
AMR's Latin American operation was purchased from Eastern, not Pan Am.
If you look at post 54 you'll see that UAL bought Pan Am's Latin American route authority in bankruptcy court after they had ceased operations. As such, ALPA's fragmentation policy didn't apply, and UAL didn't take any aircraft or pilots.
AMR's Latin American operation was purchased from Eastern, not Pan Am.
05-10-2008, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I see. Forget about the fact that junior pilots voted for scope changes. The real problem was who put the language there in the first place? I actually don't know who "put" the language in there - I would be speculating. I do give ALL pilots more credit than you however. I think all of them are adults capable of making an informed voting decision.
I too have grown weary of trying to explain fairly basic things to you. You are obvioiusly new to the industry, so I have an old saying that you may want to consider: "Better to remain silent and have others wonder if you are a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
Good luck on your decision.
Carl
I too have grown weary of trying to explain fairly basic things to you. You are obvioiusly new to the industry, so I have an old saying that you may want to consider: "Better to remain silent and have others wonder if you are a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
Good luck on your decision.
Carl
I never said the "real" problem was who put in the language, it's just part of the problem. sorry that it's tough to face, but the majority of your pilots would never fly the 50 or 70 seater so the importance factor drops when voting. I'm sure that some very junior people voted for it as well.
I do agree with you that it gets old trying to explain very simple things to you as well. I know that you're a little older. did you forget to drink your ensure?
those adults that made an informed voting decision sold out the junior and future pilots.
by the way what's the decision I need luck on???
Last edited by Eric Stratton; 05-10-2008 at 02:26 PM.
05-15-2008, 04:37 PM
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I wish the best for all the NWA/DAL folks in this merger but history, with respect to this scenario, is heavily laden pain and suffering on all sides. The pre-emtive move by DAL MEC , which I completely understand, will not make it smooth, trust me.
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