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Old 06-04-2008, 09:49 AM
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Not like the regionals is it! Everyone in scheduling has been fantastic and they routinely go out of their way to help. I even got a gift certificate and a nice letter from the CP for helping out the other day. Not to mention a call from the scheduling supervisor thanking me. I have been very impressed thus far.
Apparently there are some NW schedulers hanging out with the DL schedulers this week in ATL, getting a feel for the ops. The intergration has begun.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:49 AM
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I hope we keep it too. It was an item the company wanted way back to get us out of the commute mode. I had a commuting discussion with a chief pilot awhile back and when I got the old "commuting is a priviledge not a right" I reminded him that if they had to move us everytime they moved flying around (like the military) it would cost them millions. Commuters actually save them money....or at least I think so.
Well, I agree with you in theory, but alas, here at Delta, we've proven to our management time and again that they can move flying anywhere they want, and enough pilots will bid it voluntarily- and hence not cost Delta a paid move (with exception of new categories). Our own worst enemies it seems...

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On to another question........If your a MSP based pilot and get a new award that requires training, NWA assumes you live in MSP and doesn't cover your hotel during training. So, what commuters have to do is bid over to DTW, bid your new jet, and then get the award so you don't get stuck with the hotel bill. Is it the same at Delta? Do they assume an ATL guy lives there?
At DAL you get a hotel for training regardless of your domicile. In other words, you could be an ATL 737 pilot, and bid ATL 767, you would still get a paid hotel if you request it. Only exception is for recurrent training, which does not get you a hotel if you are ATL based already (other bases of course get hotel for recurrent training in ATL).

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Old 06-04-2008, 09:53 AM
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Only exception is for recurrent training, which does not get you a hotel if you are ATL based already (other bases of course get hotel for recurrent training in ATL).

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You sure about that? I could be wrong, (to lazy to go find my contract copy,) but I just had recurrent and was asked if I needed a room when I called to find out why they forgot to schedule me. I'm ATL based too.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:05 AM
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You sure about that? I could be wrong, (to lazy to go find my contract copy,) but I just had recurrent and was asked if I needed a room when I called to find out why they forgot to schedule me. I'm ATL based too.
Pretty sure.

Looking at 5.E.1.b
1. The Company will provide adequate and comfortable single occupancy lodging for a
pilot who is...
b. at his base, when undergoing qualification training (including the night prior to the first day of training, but not including the night of the last day of training) provided he submits a request for such lodging to Flight Training Planning not later than seven days before the date of the initial line awards for the bid period in which the training is scheduled or the date of notification of his scheduled training, whichever is later...

Operative term being "qualification training". i.e. Initial, Requal, or Transition. They have always used those to distinguish them from recurrent or "continuing qual".

But, I could be wrong on this, so anyone with recent gouge?

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Old 06-04-2008, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NoSoupForYou View Post
Pretty sure.

Looking at 5.E.1.b
1. The Company will provide adequate and comfortable single occupancy lodging for a
pilot who is...
b. at his base, when undergoing qualification training (including the night prior to the first day of training, but not including the night of the last day of training) provided he submits a request for such lodging to Flight Training Planning not later than seven days before the date of the initial line awards for the bid period in which the training is scheduled or the date of notification of his scheduled training, whichever is later...

Operative term being "qualification training". i.e. Initial, Requal, or Transition. They have always used those to distinguish them from recurrent or "continuing qual".

But, I could be wrong on this, so anyone with recent gouge?

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Wow!! That is great......

In the mean time, guess I'll bid over to DTW to get ready for -400 FO school, what is it they say 'bout time'n. But, no more Saipan for me I guess

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Old 06-04-2008, 10:37 AM
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Wow!! That is great......

In the mean time, guess I'll bid over to DTW to get ready for -400 FO school, what is it they say 'bout time'n. But, no more Saipan for me I guess

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NOSAIPANFORYOU!

NEXT!

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NOSAIPANFORYOU!

NEXT!

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Noooooooooooooooo pleasssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeee I can beggggg!

Yup, going to miss giving the bad boy tour

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Noooooooooooooooo pleasssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeee I can beggggg!

Yup, going to miss giving the bad boy tour

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So no Saipan, but now you have Manila!!!! You can get into enough trouble there, bad boy.
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So no Saipan, but now you have Manila!!!! You can get into enough trouble there, bad boy.
hehehehehehehehhe <---------dirty old man laugh
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
You sure about that? I could be wrong, (to lazy to go find my contract copy,) but I just had recurrent and was asked if I needed a room when I called to find out why they forgot to schedule me. I'm ATL based too.
If you are based where you have recurrent, you do NOT get a hotel. You DO get a hotel for qualification training, even if you do the training where you are based (i.e. 99% of the time ATL).

Either the planner made an error, or perhaps you were one of the guys going to DEN for recurrent?

BTW, for all the NWA guys, we used to not have the provision of getting a hotel room for qualification training, so a lot of ATL commuters would have to play the same game--for example bid CVG on an Advance Entitlement (the term we use for an upgrade bid to a different plane or base), then on the next AE bid back to ATL. That way you could get a paid hotel for training...or if you didn't play that game you had a crappy crashpad and/or serious $$ outlays if you paid for the hotel yourself.

Getting the paid hotel for in-base qualification training was one of the best things we ever negotiated.
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