6.5% vs. 11%
07-01-2008, 01:29 PM
#33
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Voting "no" is actually probably the smarter move for DAL pilots. Very limited downside and huge potential upside. Management needs us for this merger. They'll need to come up with more goodies if they want us to play ball.
Goodies will have to be more fairly split.
Goodies will have to be more fairly split.
07-01-2008, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff
Voting "no" is actually probably the smarter move for DAL pilots. Very limited downside and huge potential upside. Management needs us for this merger. They'll need to come up with more goodies if they want us to play ball.
Goodies will have to be more fairly split.
Goodies will have to be more fairly split.
How long have you been at DAL, less than 2 years? Management doesn't need you, because when they don't get the synergies they need they'll just can all of us. They'll be parking more than just some DC9s. And why can't you understand that a equal pay raise isn't possible if we are going to be on one contract?
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07-01-2008, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff
Voting "no" is actually probably the smarter move for DAL pilots. Very limited downside and huge potential upside. Management needs us for this merger. They'll need to come up with more goodies if they want us to play ball.
Goodies will have to be more fairly split.
Goodies will have to be more fairly split.
This Speaks volumes about you NO voters who now are flipping off your Representatives!!
This will get voted in because the vast majority of pilots are educated enough to know that we dont have anymore negotiating power with the economy the way it is, even YOUR MEC knows it. They have all the FACTs you DONT.
07-01-2008, 01:40 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by johnso29
How long have you been at DAL, less than 2 years? Management doesn't need you, because when they don't get the synergies they need they'll just can all of us. They'll be parking more than just some DC9s. And why can't you understand that a equal pay raise isn't possible if we are going to be on one contract? Oh wait, I just looked at your avatar.
07-01-2008, 01:45 PM
#37
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Pay parity and work rule parity have to happen in any merger. There are various methods it can happen but its the first step before you can go forward. I still don't believe I will vote yes for the agreement because of the retirement section and the length of the agreement. I don't however have a problem with the allocation of money. If you are the lower payed airline you get a bonus. Its still benefits the higher paid side because you have to have all the players on the same sheet of paper if you are going to seek true improvements in the next contract. In addition having different pay rates smacks of a B-scale. I vowed I would never vote yes on any agreement that contained a B-scale. I have kept that vow.
07-01-2008, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff
Voting "no" is actually probably the smarter move for DAL pilots. Very limited downside and huge potential upside. Management needs us for this merger. They'll need to come up with more goodies if they want us to play ball.
Goodies will have to be more fairly split.
Goodies will have to be more fairly split.
Keep up the good work Spaceman, you're a YES voter's best friend.
Carl
07-01-2008, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Sailing,
As usual well thought out post. I voted no on our last contract over the lenght of the agreement so I can't fault your logic. Thanks for supporting parity.
Good luck,
Ferd
As usual well thought out post. I voted no on our last contract over the lenght of the agreement so I can't fault your logic. Thanks for supporting parity.
Good luck,
Ferd
Carl
