Carl you win the personal insult game, I'm not going to play.

Watch this space for SLOA's. Until then we wait and see. We have around 60 days.

Carl:

I wasn't the only one who had these concerns. You will want to read the "SLI No Prejudice" agreement dated 23 June 2008.

Looks like the issue was resolved and if you have questions about my concerns regarding SLI, you can ask Capt. Dave Stevens if both he an I are both wrong.

I'm not questioning your musings BB, I just don't see how they're germain. You stated: "The pay rates reflect a potential SLI methodology." Even IF that statement is somewhere to be quoted by the team who just negotiated our TA, what potential SLI methodology did they reflect upon? Any methodology would have had to be a guess on their part given we don't have and SLI.

I just see no relevance whatsoever to your thesis.

Carl

You know... nobody would care if we were paid based on seniority and not aircraft type. Everyone would still make the exact same amount as they do now, but get to fly the aircraft/lifestyle they choose.

Let's say it takes 25 years to get to the left seat of the biggest plane to make the most money. Just pay a 25 year pilot that amount.

Sat it take 15 years to get to the left seat of a smaller plane. Pay a 15 year pilot that amount. Say it takes 10 years to get to the right seat of the biggest plane to make top FO pay: Pay a 10 year pilot that amount. and so on...

Then nobody has the "need" top change planes (and thus the training costs) to make more money.

More pay for bigger aircraft makes no sense.

AMEN!!! God I'm glad somebody besides me sees the logic in that ClipperJet. It'll never happen, though. When I'm pushing 60 (no way in HELL am I working to 65), I certainly don't want to be flying international, but unless I win the lottery between now and then, I'll probably have to do it for the money. Speaking as a heavy driver on Mil Leave from NWA, flying overseas and back, over and over and over, day after day, year after year, wears on you. I'd like to ease into my retirement years flying out and backs where I can sleep in my own bed most nights.....leave the oceanic crossings for the young guys. Additionally, if we saved on training costs, that would undoubtedly be good for the company.... heaven forbid unions do anything to help the company out.