Winston Smith

Have you looked at the financials? There is absolutely no way this could be construed as anything other than an acquisition, by any definition other than maybe your own (or possibly NALPA's). I understand if your ego is slightly soothed by convincing yourself you're "merging" instead of being "bought out." Denial is not just a river in Egypt...

First arbitration hearing is Thursday. We'll soon find out...

nwaf16dude

While we are "keeping things in mind" I think all the pilots at NWA and Delta need to remember that the merger (you can call it an aquisition if it makes you feel better) is the only reason any of us are getting any contract improvements right now. Absent this merger, Richard would be on about page 2 or 3 of the standard section 6 playbook right now, threatening to cancel orders, shrink, or furlough. Section 6 would be no fun with the economy in the shape it's in. Take a look at what's going on at AA, CAL, and UAL. I'm not claiming that it would be any better at NWA, although we are projected to make a 60-100 million profit this quarter, which is pretty amazing considering the circumstances.

Coming on this forum and arguing SLI positions and who gets to fly what airplane serves no purpose other than to inflame and poison the well for later. (or maybe entertain you if you're a little twisted) Remember what the ALPA national forums looked like before US Air left?

acl65pilot

And Delta's engine shop alone made 81 million for the quarter.
I am not in to what is going on here. We voted on it, and the arbitrators will decide.

johnso29

What's being parked:

757's
MD88's
DC9's
RJ's
737's
747's

What's being bought:

777's
787's
737's

Don't forget DAL is parking airplanes too. Nice try fishing though.

johnso29

That's funny, becuase the only one who calls it an aquistion is the media, and you. Even R.A. refers to it as A MERGER. Give it up.

johnso29

Well, you're wrong. The slots come from the NWA side and they're credited to the NWA side.

Carl Spackler

You mean the financials that showed last quarter NWA made considerably more profit while being about 2/3rds the size of DAL? Or the financials that show NWA should make 60 to 100 million this quarter while DAL should break even?

Or Richard Anderson and the US DOJ who also calls it a merger. But who are they? Obviously not as plugged in as you.

No ego involved here. Just still wondering what you meant by NWA pilots should "keep that in mind" about DAL "acquiring" NWA. I say again, even if RA and the DOJ are wrong and it really is an acquisition, what should NWA pilots be "keeping in mind?"

Carl

Bucking Bar

Congratulations, you score 44%. You forgot to hit Delta's 767 which is a favorite form of DAL bashing on the other boards. These 767's just finished the winglet certification on an AA jet and the numbers are even better than the designers had hoped.

The 757's and MD88's are going out for heavy Mx. The Maintenance is scheduled so that it is completed when the airplanes come back for the summer schedule. MD88's are getting in-flight wireless as a chep, revenue adding, form of IFE. No 737's are being parked, where'd you get that from?

757's are the most efficient a/c in the fleet. NWA's 757-300's have the absolute lowest CASM in the entire Delta/NWA pantheon.

The 787 probably will not be delivered until the -900 comes out. In the interim negotiations are going forward for 777's.

acl65pilot

True and RA has made a few trips to SEA to discuss it.

Justdoinmyjob

I thought the JPWA said that any new airframes prior to SOC went to the carrier that either had them on order, (for new types,) or already operated that type. If they are converted to 747s, then NW gets them. If 777s, DL gets them. There wasn't anything about crediting delivery slots. I could be mistaken, I'll have to read the JPWA again when I get home.