Delta's Proposed Seniority List
#41
I have a friend who own a dealership and right now even with a FICO well above 700 an applicant needs at least 20% up front to be approved by GMAC..... Credit is tight and getting worse so the makers may not be up for the loan. But you guess is as good as mine.
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#43
The captains were slotted in with Delta 88 captains.
The FOs were the special case. Its not the captains who are in danger of furlough. They can always bid other equipment when the 9s go away. The FOs might not get that option.
That's why DALPA is trying so hard to protect the bottom 10% of our list. It would be fundamentally unfair to furlough Delta pilots because a bunch of NWA airplanes suddenly get retired.
The FOs were the special case. Its not the captains who are in danger of furlough. They can always bid other equipment when the 9s go away. The FOs might not get that option.
That's why DALPA is trying so hard to protect the bottom 10% of our list. It would be fundamentally unfair to furlough Delta pilots because a bunch of NWA airplanes suddenly get retired.
Has management given a reason as to why they want to park the 9? Under capcity, over lap, too expensive? The reason that I ask is, if the new management thought it best to retire the md88's instead of the 9 I don't think it would be right to furlough only delta's pilots for the parking of their airplane. It's a part of the new airline's plan and not either of the original airlines plan.
On a side note if any airplane can be replace by something at a regional then I think a furlough should start from the top down for not tightening scope under the combined contract.
#44
You're entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is. You don't speak for Boeing, and you don't speak for Richard Anderson or any of his executive officers...Trust me on that.
I don't speak for them either, but at least I admit it.
Carl
#45
How do you know NW wasn't going to park them? They had already announced the reduction in the -9s a long time ago.
#46
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#48
Carl,
I agree that as the price of oil goes down the DC-9's become more viable - good for all of us. I disagree with your credit argument for the following reasons:
*DAL recently secured another $1 Billion line of credit.
*Boeing is going to have to self finance its sales if the credit markets dry up.
*NW is chock full of unrestricted cash as you guys have been telling us for the last 6 months.
I wholeheartedly agree with the "place your bets" mentality - who knows what next year will look like?
Scoop
I agree that as the price of oil goes down the DC-9's become more viable - good for all of us. I disagree with your credit argument for the following reasons:
*DAL recently secured another $1 Billion line of credit.
*Boeing is going to have to self finance its sales if the credit markets dry up.
*NW is chock full of unrestricted cash as you guys have been telling us for the last 6 months.
I wholeheartedly agree with the "place your bets" mentality - who knows what next year will look like?
Scoop
Carl
#49
How do you know Delta wasn't going to: (fill in blank here)?
And by the way, have you stopped beating your wife yet? Yes or No?
Carl
#50
I've been told by friends at northwest that they did have plans to park 9's but not all. they had plans to keep flying them until around 2013. the flying that was being stopped was being picked up by the initial compass flying. the nwa scope supposedly protects more flying from being outsource by having a ratio in it. (preventing further regional growth at the expense of nwa)
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