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Old 10-22-2008, 05:27 PM
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I am currently in training for the 747-400 and the fleet captain came into our class today and gave us a run down on the 747 plans and other info as he knows it for the future.

Currently NWA operates 16 747-400's with no plans to remove them from the fleet. DAL likes the fact this AC can haul over 400 pax well over 7000 miles. Don't expect to see additional airframes but no loss' either. New destinations look to be ATL/San Paulo, ATL/Tel Aviv. The south flying in NRT will be around for awhile as there is no good way to run US/NRT and make a turn in 24 hours...... LAX/NRT and SEA/NRT are being looked at to be run by 767. Look for around 200 training events for 2009 in the -400 with it being a 50/50 split FO/PIC.

747-200 hours are planned to be reduced by reported amounts. Expect to see DAL equipment in NWA bases and vice versa within a few months of DCC. DC-9 being looked at for the shuttle operation, 320's out of CVG, SLT/NRT being considered, DC-9 to stay around and no additional reductions (that he was aware of). CVG and MEM are still planned as bases/hubs for the combined airline.

Guess thats is for now...... Back to the books.
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Old 10-22-2008, 05:41 PM
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Sounds good. The current leases on the 744's do not need to be dealt with for a couple of years.
DC-9 on the shuttle. Oh god that will get really old quick.
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot View Post
I am currently in training for the 747-400 and the fleet captain came into our class today and gave us a run down on the 747 plans and other info as he knows it for the future.

Currently NWA operates 16 747-400's with no plans to remove them from the fleet. DAL likes the fact this AC can haul over 400 pax well over 7000 miles. Don't expect to see additional airframes but no loss' either. New destinations look to be ATL/San Paulo, ATL/Tel Aviv. The south flying in NRT will be around for awhile as there is no good way to run US/NRT and make a turn in 24 hours...... LAX/NRT and SEA/NRT are being looked at to be run by 767. Look for around 200 training events for 2009 in the -400 with it being a 50/50 split FO/PIC.

747-200 hours are planned to be reduced by reported amounts. Expect to see DAL equipment in NWA bases and vice versa within a few months of DCC. DC-9 being looked at for the shuttle operation, 320's out of CVG, SLT/NRT being considered, DC-9 to stay around and no additional reductions (that he was aware of). CVG and MEM are still planned as bases/hubs for the combined airline.

Guess thats is for now...... Back to the books.
Thanks for the update. Have fun in school. I heard the toughest thing about the -400 is learning how to operate the heater in the crew bunks.
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Sounds good. The current leases on the 744's do not need to be dealt with for a couple of years.
DC-9 on the shuttle. Oh god that will get really old quick.
I admit that that does not sound like fun. What exactly does the shuttle operation do?
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LGA to BOS and DCA many many times a day.
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Hey Bus Boy!

Get off my Boeing! Just kidding, see ya in Narita with the smoke'n blue giants.

But! This reminds me...........

Hey ACL,

Please confirm something for me. I can hold the 747-400 and was going to wait till I could move over to DTW so I wouldn't have to pay for my hotel room in MSP. As a MSP guy, NWA assumes I live in MSP and won't pay for the hotel room.

So, I understand under the Delta contract that I'll get my room paid for no matter where I'm based? True?

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Originally Posted by Ferd149 View Post
Hey Bus Boy!

Get off my Boeing! Just kidding, see ya in Narita with the smoke'n blue giants.

But! This reminds me...........

Hey ACL,

Please confirm something for me. I can hold the 747-400 and was going to wait till I could move over to DTW so I wouldn't have to pay for my hotel room in MSP. As a MSP guy, NWA assumes I live in MSP and won't pay for the hotel room.

So, I understand under the Delta contract that I'll get my room paid for no matter where I'm based? True?

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As a DAL guy I can answer that. You are correct. For all qualification training (anything but recurrent, but recurrent only lasts three days at most) you get a paid hotel room, even if the training is at your domicile.

For all the concessions and givebacks over the years, this is one of the best contractual improvements that DALPA has procured. I've done qual training as a commuter before this provision, and it sucked! Crashpad, etc. I have also done it recently and it is wonderful. I actually live "local" but it is about an hour drive. Not making that drive--or even just making it one or two days a week when I want to, and staying in the hotel at my convenience--is a great thing! It makes me a lot better student as well, as I can completely focus on training and not grind my teeth in either a. Atlanta traffic or b. at the cost of a hotel and/or crashpad out of pocket.
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Hey Bus Boy!

Get off my Boeing! Just kidding, see ya in Narita with the smoke'n blue giants.
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I just wanted to get in on the "Super Premium Widebody Flying" while it was still around.

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Herk,

Perfect! What I was hoping for! Now I just need to kick myself for doing long course training at MSP in the winter. Yuck........

Thanks again,
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot View Post
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I just wanted to get in on the "Super Premium Widebody Flying" while it was still around.

Hey
I heard that!


Are you getting the whole type now that we are back to capt augmentation?

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