The truth about LOA 19 finally surfaces
#12
Personally, I'd like to come to a negotiated list TO AVOID animosity between pilots. But that will be impossible if you insist on a staple. I feel comfortable going to into arbitration because it could not be worse than what Delta offered. How comfortable do you feel with arbitration? I hope you are feeling lucky...
Last edited by capncrunch; 10-25-2008 at 02:43 PM.
#13
I'm glad you guys are sticking to that ridiculous idea because it makes the arbitrators position to side with NWA easier. He already warned you guys that this is a merger of equals and if you don't heed his point, you'll find yourself very upset when the decision comes out.
Personally, I'd like to come to a negotiated list TO AVOID animosity between pilots. But that will be impossible if you insist on a staple. I feel comfortable going to into arbitration because it could not be worse than what Delta offered. How comfortable do you feel with arbitration? I hope you are feeling lucky...
Personally, I'd like to come to a negotiated list TO AVOID animosity between pilots. But that will be impossible if you insist on a staple. I feel comfortable going to into arbitration because it could not be worse than what Delta offered. How comfortable do you feel with arbitration? I hope you are feeling lucky...
Carl
#14
Carl,
I don't normally get involved with the seniority list arbitration discussions but I have to comment here on what you feel is an extreme proposal.
According to your MEC's DOH proposal, that would give NW 1470 of the top 1877 positions on the combined seniority list. I got these numbers from the seniority lists dated May 2008 for NW and Aug 2008 for DAL. These numbers include only those with a DOH thru Dec 31 1985.
Talk about extreme!!!!! I know you have said you feel DOH would not be fair to the Delta pilots, but your MEC does not agree with you!!
Denny
I echo the rest of your comments, only from the other side of the coin!!!!
I don't normally get involved with the seniority list arbitration discussions but I have to comment here on what you feel is an extreme proposal.
According to your MEC's DOH proposal, that would give NW 1470 of the top 1877 positions on the combined seniority list. I got these numbers from the seniority lists dated May 2008 for NW and Aug 2008 for DAL. These numbers include only those with a DOH thru Dec 31 1985.
Talk about extreme!!!!! I know you have said you feel DOH would not be fair to the Delta pilots, but your MEC does not agree with you!!
Denny
I echo the rest of your comments, only from the other side of the coin!!!!
Last edited by Denny Crane; 10-25-2008 at 04:03 PM.
#15
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I'm glad you guys are sticking to that ridiculous idea because it makes the arbitrators position to side with NWA easier. He already warned you guys that this is a merger of equals and if you don't heed his point, you'll find yourself very upset when the decision comes out.
Personally, I'd like to come to a negotiated list TO AVOID animosity between pilots. But that will be impossible if you insist on a staple. I feel comfortable going to into arbitration because it could not be worse than what Delta offered. How comfortable do you feel with arbitration? I hope you are feeling lucky...
Personally, I'd like to come to a negotiated list TO AVOID animosity between pilots. But that will be impossible if you insist on a staple. I feel comfortable going to into arbitration because it could not be worse than what Delta offered. How comfortable do you feel with arbitration? I hope you are feeling lucky...
#16
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I'm glad you guys are sticking to that ridiculous idea because it makes the arbitrators position to side with NWA easier. He already warned you guys that this is a merger of equals and if you don't heed his point, you'll find yourself very upset when the decision comes out.
Personally, I'd like to come to a negotiated list TO AVOID animosity between pilots. But that will be impossible if you insist on a staple. I feel comfortable going to into arbitration because it could not be worse than what Delta offered. How comfortable do you feel with arbitration? I hope you are feeling lucky...
Personally, I'd like to come to a negotiated list TO AVOID animosity between pilots. But that will be impossible if you insist on a staple. I feel comfortable going to into arbitration because it could not be worse than what Delta offered. How comfortable do you feel with arbitration? I hope you are feeling lucky...
#19
Carl,
I don't normally get involved with the seniority list arbitration discussions but I have to comment here on what you feel is an extreme proposal.
According to your MEC's DOH proposal, that would give NW 1470 of the top 1877 positions on the combined seniority list. I got these numbers from the seniority lists dated May 2008 for NW and Aug 2008 for DAL. These numbers include only those with a DOH thru Dec 31 1985. Talk about extreme!!!!!
I don't normally get involved with the seniority list arbitration discussions but I have to comment here on what you feel is an extreme proposal.
According to your MEC's DOH proposal, that would give NW 1470 of the top 1877 positions on the combined seniority list. I got these numbers from the seniority lists dated May 2008 for NW and Aug 2008 for DAL. These numbers include only those with a DOH thru Dec 31 1985. Talk about extreme!!!!!
Carl
#20
As I've asked earlier, where does the DAL fence proposal protect NWA guys in any similar fashion given the extreme inequities that exist on the DAL list from top to bottom?
Carl