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Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 512850)
NewK,
Yup that's the one! Thanks for finding it. Google search, dah, what was I thinking..... Ferd |
717
I understand that Delta is also trying to get Boeing to start making a new 717 size aircraft to replace the aging Mad Dogs and add to the DC9 fleet.:D
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Boeing makes that aircraft now. It is the 737-600. Much like the Airbus A-318 its not competitive because when you shrink a airframe it always ends up to heavy for the number of seats. Stretched aircraft are far more efficient. The 100 seat aircraft I would expect to see is the Bombadier C series. Its planned for a 2012 service intro however 2014/15 is more realistic. Delta management has promised a new 100 seat aircraft since Delta parked its DC-9's. Its always going to be ordered any day. 17 years have gone by and no orders. I would not hold my breath on this one.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 513247)
....Delta management has promised a new 100 seat aircraft since Delta parked its DC-9's. Its always going to be ordered any day. 17 years have gone by and no orders. I would not hold my breath on this one.
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WHen NWA phased out the first 100 of the 160 DC-9's what did they replace them with. That is the answer to your question. Delta management seems quite content with the seat gap. 76 Seat RJ's seem to work for them. They don't work well for us however.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 513310)
WHen NWA phased out the first 100 of the 160 DC-9's what did they replace them with. That is the answer to your question. Delta management seems quite content with the seat gap. 76 Seat RJ's seem to work for them. They don't work well for us however.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 513310)
WHen NWA phased out the first 100 of the 160 DC-9's what did they replace them with. That is the answer to your question. Delta management seems quite content with the seat gap. 76 Seat RJ's seem to work for them. They don't work well for us however.
On the eve of the SLI decision we should be on the same page. The markets the old NWA served with the 70 seater will now need a bigger aircraft for the NewDelta to service them. A bigger airline has more feed for its routes, right? Your old management might have been content with the seat gap, but Richard Anderson might not be. Let's hope not, because while those 100-125 seat replacement aircraft might not help you and I individually, they would represent a quicker upgrade time for our new and future hires. Personally, I think that we as a group should be fighting to capture the 70-76 seat flying for the mainline, but that's another 8 paragraphs (at least). :rolleyes: New K Now (That recaptures 70 seat flying. We used to have it, you know) :( |
New K Now,
My read of Sailingfun is that he would love to have a replacement acft for all the reasons you state but Delta management has been saying this for numerous years and nothing has been ordered. They have just been giving it lip service while they order more and more "76" seat aircraft. I think we are on the same page. Delta managements lips have been moving on the subject of a 100-125 seat replacement for years and years .......go figure!!:D I don't think any mainline pilot in their right mind would say mainline should not have as much flying as they can. More acft equals more jobs equals more job security etc... We'll have to see what RA's thoughts are on 100-125 seat aircraft. I'm not holding my breath.....and I would dearly love to recapture 70 plus seat flying to the mainline. Denny |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 513374)
New K Now,
My read of Sailingfun is that he would love to have a replacement acft for all the reasons you state but Delta management has been saying this for numerous years and nothing has been ordered. They have just been giving it lip service while they order more and more "76" seat aircraft. I think we are on the same page. Delta managements lips have been moving on the subject of a 100-125 seat replacement for years and years .......go figure!!:D I don't think any mainline pilot in their right mind would say mainline should not have as much flying as they can. More acft equals more jobs equals more job security etc... We'll have to see what RA's thoughts are on 100-125 seat aircraft. I'm not holding my breath.....and I would dearly love to recapture 70 plus seat flying to the mainline. Denny That is all fine by me. I'm sure we are all on the same page, even and especially after tomorrow. :D New K Now |
330 is the true Frankentanker/Frankenplane
Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 512251)
Too funny!
Sailing may be correct about other countries flying a version. It was my impression from the article that the one the being pitched to the USAF wasn't flying yet, but my memory isn't what it used to be.:eek: The Boeing advantage was that the boom was a known and well working item so that supports what Sailing said. No joy on the mag, I'll check and see if I can find an on-line version of the article, especially the cartoon with "Frankentanker". Ferd Frankentanker? It is ironic airbus would say the 767 is the kit bashed plane because the 330 fits the Frankentanker profile more than the 767 by a lonf shot. The 330 is a A300 built in 1970 stretched and a different wing plus a glass cockpit. The 767 had the glass and FMC from the beginning and is 10 years newer. The-400 is stretched with winglets with more modern avionics but still glass from the beginning. For anyone suggesting the 330 and for that matter the 340 is a newer plane is truly not wise in the ways of aviation. The airbus is the true Frakenplane and they created the artical to cover the fact up. Thats right, fact. Look up when the 300 flew and went into service. A330 and even more the 340 is the true frakenplane bastard. "Aint gonna fly no airbus airplane" Reltney |
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