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Old 12-09-2008, 10:09 AM   #91  
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Let's see, i drive the 400...guy next to me drives a 767 and is 6 years junior. Yah....sounds really good. So they drop the 400 and I drop wayyy down...who needs the money anyway. Let's see...I am sitting there with wife and kids for vacation...and some junior boy gets on the plane ahead of us...6 years junior....oh really fine. Let's all just get along now can we.
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DAL does not use seniority numbers for non-reving - What are you talking about?

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Old 12-09-2008, 11:49 AM   #92  
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:40 PM   #93  
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Redtail is, uh, well, the Perfect example of the mantra I've heard for the last 22 years.
Let's hope that Mantra dies a rapid death with this SLI deal and we can all move on. I'm ready to toss a cold one back with you guys. Cheers!
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:56 PM   #94  
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Can someone post a link (or directions) to the actual list? I cant find it on the NWA site, only a letter from the MEC?

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Old 12-09-2008, 05:10 PM   #95  
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Can someone post a link (or directions) to the actual list? I cant find it on the NWA site, only a letter from the MEC?

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it's on the merger web site under seniority list arbitration tab. The link is the merger website.
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:21 PM   #96  
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it's on the merger web site under seniority list arbitration tab. The link is the merger website.
Supe..

Exactly where I looked, but I only saw the link to the MEC letter...I'll look again.

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Duh, found it...thanks.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:30 PM   #97  
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For real, Redtail, what did you lose?

Let's see...You are a whale Captain...you've got a 5 year fence...and a nice pay raise.

Where exactly did you get screwed?
For 23 years I have waited to get a widebldy seat(a330or 747). I was about a year away before the merger. Now I have 1400 DAL guys senior to me tht are junior to me date of hire and younger than me that get a shot before I do. Guess what that means, no A330 captain for years. Get that- for years. And the 767 does not fly to BKK, hkg,ams.lgw,paris,rome,etc. Not even close to being the same airplane. Hurray for the DAL guys that get to fly what I would have had. No way you would understand unless you were on this side of the fence. I am an 85 hire. I was hired at DAL but was already at NWA. 1985 DAL guys are in the 200s I am in the 2800 range. For me this is B.S. What exactly did you loose in this?????

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Old 12-09-2008, 08:36 PM   #98  
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To quote "Hoot" in Black Hawk Down, Hey, "It's a whole new week, It's Monday!" I have a lot to be thankful for. I could have taken my Western Airlines class date in Feb 87' and been way up this list. I also would never have met my Super Premium, non-widebody wife here in MEM, never retired from a terrific ANG unit in same, missed out on a hundred Cayman layovers, like number of "illegal" overnights to almost a full night of sleep, stayed in my same house on a lake, raised two wonderful kids in a less stressful environment, and kept some semblance of my retirement. I've found what I was looking for, and it wasn't in an arbitrated seniority list. The hat and the Thurston Howell lll coat are probably my biggest concerns now. All the best to all DAL pilots and their families, I hope that you have the blessings I've had, and I look forward to doing my best for "Our Delta"

Guess you have already drank the coolaide. Good luck to you man.
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Guess you have already drank the coolaide. Good luck to you man.
Keenster, I am with you, I am an 84 hire and have been a 747 captain for more than ten years. I wound up with 700 pilots ahead of me who were hired behind me AND are flying a lower paying seat and equipment even BEFORE we got our xerox on Letter19. These guys are mostly younger than me and flying a smaller and lower paying airlplane(767%&#) . While the middle of our seniority list i.e. 95 hires did OK(The Bartellians I suppose and the chosen children of targeting) Our demographic definitely took one for the Gipper. This list for the 83 to 87 hired guys was nothing short of a disaster very much an all lose no win deal since we really are 330 territory and it is not protected. Mark me in on the opt in.
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Keenster, Thanks for the kind comments about kool aid and good luck. I don't need any luck, I've already made my own. Drowning in a sea of self pity is a hard way to go, good luck to you with it. This is a job. If that is the zenith of one's existence, then I suppose yesterday was the St. Valentines Day Massacre. I've been hearing about career expectations for 22 years, and I know that the tail end charlie red book pilots had a pile of them. A year later, pud knockers like myself had none. I dare say my seniority took the biggest hit of all, 3 years, 4 months and 1600 numbers. It happened. Delta Air Lines is not where I turn to for id and ego, but if dual truck gear and a hump up top are the path to enlightenment, then I suppose my expectations are just about right.

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