Blood Oath
12-09-2008, 09:28 PM
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Blood Oath
I've mentioned this several times over the months, but I agree with Scoop that we all need to make an oath (of sorts).
Most post merger NWA guys have sat through countless Red/Green discussions over the years, mostly on long late night flights. While interesting from a history of the industry point of view, they did get old.
So here is the oath we ALL need to take, NWA and Delta guys alike. No matter how good or bad you think things went for you personally, we all need to promise never talk about all this to our new post merger new hires (when ever they show up). Trust me, they won't understand much of it nor will they care.
Repeat after me.........I (speak our name) do promise.................
Ferd
Most post merger NWA guys have sat through countless Red/Green discussions over the years, mostly on long late night flights. While interesting from a history of the industry point of view, they did get old.
So here is the oath we ALL need to take, NWA and Delta guys alike. No matter how good or bad you think things went for you personally, we all need to promise never talk about all this to our new post merger new hires (when ever they show up). Trust me, they won't understand much of it nor will they care.
Repeat after me.........I (speak our name) do promise.................
Ferd
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12-09-2008, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
Does that include the guys that are on the property but were hired ater Constructive Notice? 
I guess they can talk about it, but only to themselves
They get to look in the mirror each morning and say "did I ever tell you..............."
Seriously, they "sort of" remind me of the old NWA bridge pilots. There always seems to be a few guys in these things in an odd position.
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12-09-2008, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
I actually mentioned them in a PS that I later deleted......
I guess they can talk about it, but only to themselves They get to look in the mirror each morning and say "did I ever tell you..............."
Seriously, they "sort of" remind me of the old NWA bridge pilots. There always seems to be a few guys in these things in an odd position.
Ferd
I guess they can talk about it, but only to themselves
They get to look in the mirror each morning and say "did I ever tell you..............."Seriously, they "sort of" remind me of the old NWA bridge pilots. There always seems to be a few guys in these things in an odd position.
Ferd
They will get their chance when the Alaska merger comes up.
12-10-2008, 03:24 AM
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Ferd Said:
"Most post merger NWA guys have sat through countless Red/Green discussions over the years, mostly on long late night flights. While interesting from a history of the industry point of view, they did get old."
I just hope I don't have to sit through any Red/Green discussions because I don't give a rip.
"Most post merger NWA guys have sat through countless Red/Green discussions over the years, mostly on long late night flights. While interesting from a history of the industry point of view, they did get old."
I just hope I don't have to sit through any Red/Green discussions because I don't give a rip.
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12-10-2008, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Sky,
You missed my point.
New Delta guys won't give a rip about the Blue/Red thing.
Ferd
You missed my point.
New Delta guys won't give a rip about the Blue/Red thing.
Ferd
You're right...I was tempting humor and it came off badly. I just remember when I first got hired at Delta late in 1991 I was based in LAX (the junior base at the time) waiting on ATL. New York was not the junior base yet because Pan Am was fenced in there. We had many former Western Airlines pilots there (especially captains) and sometimes there were still discussions about the Western - Pacific Northern Airlines merger that happened in 1967. I don't mean to say they were overtly bitter...just discussions. BTW I never flew with a Western Pilot I didn't like. Those guys were good dudes.
12-10-2008, 06:23 AM
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There were a couple of former Western 727 Captains in SLC that were somewhat infamous for their never-ending "Wah Wah Wah, I got screwed mantra".
They were known as "Dick the prick" and "Mad Cal".
Those of us that flew with them saw an example of "what we didn't want to be like" when we made it to the left seat.
With that exception, the rest of the former Western guys were outstanding to fly with. Great folks who didn't "sweat the small stuff" and liked to debrief at Mooses in Kalispell or at The Rhino is Missoula.
They were known as "Dick the prick" and "Mad Cal".
Those of us that flew with them saw an example of "what we didn't want to be like" when we made it to the left seat.
With that exception, the rest of the former Western guys were outstanding to fly with. Great folks who didn't "sweat the small stuff" and liked to debrief at Mooses in Kalispell or at The Rhino is Missoula.
12-10-2008, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by skysdlimit
You're right...I was tempting humor and it came off badly. I just remember when I first got hired at Delta late in 1991 I was based in LAX (the junior base at the time) waiting on ATL. New York was not the junior base yet because Pan Am was fenced in there. We had many former Western Airlines pilots there (especially captains) and sometimes there were still discussions about the Western - Pacific Northern Airlines merger that happened in 1967. I don't mean to say they were overtly bitter...just discussions. BTW I never flew with a Western Pilot I didn't like. Those guys were good dudes.
12-10-2008, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
You mean they're all gone?
Yes, those older Captains that remembered the 1967 WAL-PNA merger are retired as far as I know. We still have many former Western pilots but none that were flying back in 1967. Also, I am no longer based at LAX.
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