NWA/DAL Information Exchange...
12-12-2008, 06:16 AM
#41
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Will we see an AE before the SOC for the future bases of Delta airplanes? And likewise for the NW airplanes? That way we can let Delta guys get first dibs for their airplanes and NW guys get first dibs for their airplanes. I am hoping to get to DTW on the 7ER (transfer from JFK).
12-12-2008, 07:29 AM
#42
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I havent posted here in along time, too much negativity...Its NICE to see that most of us have settled down and are looking forward, positively!!
Question...I was 20% before and 20% after the list, so I'm pleased. Oct 98 NWA hire... MSP A320 FO (LOVE the plane, love the trips, hate the commute)...Where can I find what I can hold on the big list?? IOW, what are the junior numbers on each plane at each DAL base?? When SOC comes around, I'd like to know if SLC or LAX will be available to me, since I live in SEA and commute to MSP. Be nice if AS comes into the fold eventually, but until then....
Thanks guys!!
Question...I was 20% before and 20% after the list, so I'm pleased. Oct 98 NWA hire... MSP A320 FO (LOVE the plane, love the trips, hate the commute)...Where can I find what I can hold on the big list?? IOW, what are the junior numbers on each plane at each DAL base?? When SOC comes around, I'd like to know if SLC or LAX will be available to me, since I live in SEA and commute to MSP. Be nice if AS comes into the fold eventually, but until then....
Thanks guys!!
12-12-2008, 07:39 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by makoshark72
I havent posted here in along time, too much negativity...Its NICE to see that most of us have settled down and are looking forward, positively!!
Question...I was 20% before and 20% after the list, so I'm pleased. Oct 98 NWA hire... MSP A320 FO (LOVE the plane, love the trips, hate the commute)...Where can I find what I can hold on the big list?? IOW, what are the junior numbers on each plane at each DAL base?? When SOC comes around, I'd like to know if SLC or LAX will be available to me, since I live in SEA and commute to MSP. Be nice if AS comes into the fold eventually, but until then....
Thanks guys!!
Question...I was 20% before and 20% after the list, so I'm pleased. Oct 98 NWA hire... MSP A320 FO (LOVE the plane, love the trips, hate the commute)...Where can I find what I can hold on the big list?? IOW, what are the junior numbers on each plane at each DAL base?? When SOC comes around, I'd like to know if SLC or LAX will be available to me, since I live in SEA and commute to MSP. Be nice if AS comes into the fold eventually, but until then....
Thanks guys!!
Bottom line - if your seniority is 11,350 or better you can hold 737 in any domicile and you can hold 767 in ATL, NYC, and LAX. I am 10,300 and I can hold anything anywhere (FO seat) including ATL 777 and I was on the very edge of holding reserve NYC MD-88 Captain (within a hundred numbers).
So depending on how things shake out...you are essentially my seniority now I believe...so the answer to your question is LAX 767 and 73N are options, as well as SLC 767, 73N and MD-88/90.
Rumor is there will be a big SEA 767ER base...you might get that.
12-12-2008, 07:47 AM
#44
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
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SEA 7ER base
I flew yesterday with an LCA. I was specifically concerned about being able to hold my seat on the 767 in LAX. But his opinion from talking with the CP and others in Lanta is that marketing will need a bigger LAX ER base 20-30% increase for HNL-Pac Rim (DAL just applied yesterday for the routes). Also Airbuses in LAX for Int'l MEX and Central America. 73N will increase for transcon. But he said the biggest impact will be the opening of a 767ER base in SEA. That will move A LOT of commuters from LAX and SLC. Educated speculation ABSOLUTELY! But nice to hear stuff that may at least allow me not to commute, although staying in the 767 could be impossible.
12-12-2008, 08:01 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by PackTrip
All the Delta new hires were placed into the 767-300ER out of JFK, and the MD-88 out of Atlanta...and occasionally a new guy would get LAX 73N or SLC 73N or ATL 73N within a bid or two...a couple classes even had ATL 73N from day 1.
Bottom line - if your seniority is 11,350 or better you can hold 737 in any domicile and you can hold 767 in ATL, NYC, and LAX. I am 10,300 and I can hold anything anywhere (FO seat) including ATL 777 and I was on the very edge of holding reserve NYC MD-88 Captain (within a hundred numbers).
So depending on how things shake out...you are essentially my seniority now I believe...so the answer to your question is LAX 767 and 73N are options, as well as SLC 767, 73N and MD-88/90.
Rumor is there will be a big SEA 767ER base...you might get that.
Bottom line - if your seniority is 11,350 or better you can hold 737 in any domicile and you can hold 767 in ATL, NYC, and LAX. I am 10,300 and I can hold anything anywhere (FO seat) including ATL 777 and I was on the very edge of holding reserve NYC MD-88 Captain (within a hundred numbers).
So depending on how things shake out...you are essentially my seniority now I believe...so the answer to your question is LAX 767 and 73N are options, as well as SLC 767, 73N and MD-88/90.
Rumor is there will be a big SEA 767ER base...you might get that.
Thanks again, and really looking forward to downing a few with my 20-30+ ex-Navy Delta bros!!! However for the first time most of them will finally outrank me!!! Guess they buy...
Last edited by makoshark72; 12-12-2008 at 08:22 AM.
12-12-2008, 09:00 AM
#46
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Here's another one:
Someone told me or from somewhere on this forum I got the impression that DAL pilots could bid on ANY opentime that was availiable in the system that was in their category. So, if you are a MD-88 FO in JFK, and there was an open trip in ATL, you could bid it after a certian amount of time. (And I guess, as long as it didn't conflict with your NYC schedule) Is that true or am I mis-remembering? (Yes, I know it's not a word)
New K Now
Someone told me or from somewhere on this forum I got the impression that DAL pilots could bid on ANY opentime that was availiable in the system that was in their category. So, if you are a MD-88 FO in JFK, and there was an open trip in ATL, you could bid it after a certian amount of time. (And I guess, as long as it didn't conflict with your NYC schedule) Is that true or am I mis-remembering? (Yes, I know it's not a word)
New K Now
12-12-2008, 09:24 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Here's another one:
Someone told me or from somewhere on this forum I got the impression that DAL pilots could bid on ANY opentime that was availiable in the system that was in their category. So, if you are a MD-88 FO in JFK, and there was an open trip in ATL, you could bid it after a certian amount of time. (And I guess, as long as it didn't conflict with your NYC schedule) Is that true or am I mis-remembering? (Yes, I know it's not a word)
New K Now
Someone told me or from somewhere on this forum I got the impression that DAL pilots could bid on ANY opentime that was availiable in the system that was in their category. So, if you are a MD-88 FO in JFK, and there was an open trip in ATL, you could bid it after a certian amount of time. (And I guess, as long as it didn't conflict with your NYC schedule) Is that true or am I mis-remembering? (Yes, I know it's not a word)
New K Now
12-12-2008, 10:27 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Absolutely. Where do your trips go and for how long? And forgive me for asking agian, but if you are a LAX 767-ER pilot does that mean that you cannot fly any domestic trips out of there? I'm slow to grasp the concept.
Last edited by Hawaii50; 12-12-2008 at 10:41 AM.
12-12-2008, 11:53 AM
#49
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Position: 747-400 Captain
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Originally Posted by Kingbird87
Wasatch, Thanks for the kind words, and I'd love to bend a few back with you and all my new Delta brothers and sisters. A few here have dissed' my attitude,(positive) and thats fine with me. I have a choice each day, and I've never gotten anything by choosing to be po'd. I didn't do too well in the computers's juggling of our list, the worst was 1700 numbers, I was at 1592 hired after me going ahead. Oh well, it happened. There has been so much happening here since we first heard the names Al Checchi and Gary Wilson, I'd be tango uniform if I chose to be po'd. I used to fly with an old Southern Airways Captain when we bid the whole month together. I'd be grumbling about everything, living in a 36 inch circle around myself. He'd say, Hey man, I can't wait to get to Indy! Why Rod?, "Man, they got the best corn in the whole system there", and he'd get a big bag of popcorn and put it on the pedestal, and he was right. We'd eat corn and live the dream! Rod died of a brain tumor at age 57, and I gave his eulogy. It ended like this. "Captain Rod, your flight today is a pattern position to your home of destination. Your logbook is clean, no write ups. Your tail number is 7777. Ship load is a crew of two, no pax. Total enroute time will be short, but your layover will last an eternity. Your copilot will be in the seat with you for the first time, but has been with you before on every flight. Wave Off will be on your left, and you have a lot of grateful people to see you off. (Hand Salute), Good Luck, Captain Rod, have a great flight home!"
Ever since that day, I've known I have a choice. And if you ever taste the corn in Indy, you'll begin to understand.
Ever since that day, I've known I have a choice. And if you ever taste the corn in Indy, you'll begin to understand.
Carl
12-12-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by skysdlimit
Ok ...I'm lazy and haven't studied it, nor does it really affect me (premerger Delta) what is bid period 5...5 months of trip bidding? No laughs please.
And by the way, I'm not kidding. That's why we NWA guys make fun of "bid period 5."
Carl
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