Cross bidding?
12-10-2008, 05:37 PM
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Cross bidding?
So, lets say big D runs a displacement next week and moves 7ER's to DTW. Are all former NWA pilots eligible to bid on it or do we get a generic 12-18 month fence till SOC? Anyone?
Sincerely,
Worried junior Delta 767 driver.
Sincerely,
Worried junior Delta 767 driver.
12-10-2008, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck h
So, lets say big D runs a displacement next week and moves 7ER's to DTW. Are all former NWA pilots eligible to bid on it or do we get a generic 12-18 month fence till SOC? Anyone?
Sincerely,
Worried junior Delta 767 driver.
Sincerely,
Worried junior Delta 767 driver.
Don't be worried. We aren't on the same operating certificate yet, so ND guys could not. You may have to move with the airplane, but there can be no cross bidding until an SOC. I don't know how quickly thereafter it could happen though. I think it will take some time, but I am a rookie.
12-14-2008, 03:07 AM
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I have been wondering about this too. I was just told the same thing. They would love to do all of the rebasing right now well the loads are down and they could train more, but there are a few issues with doing so.
The decision has been made to keep most of the ops separate until SOC.
I have also understood it to be that the 757 guys from NWA may be able to do joint ops prior to SOC. We will just change your books and procedures as well as a few other things, which will allow the FAA to sign off on this gene pool mixing before SOC.
That could be what people were referring to when they told me about SOC in April.
The decision has been made to keep most of the ops separate until SOC.
I have also understood it to be that the 757 guys from NWA may be able to do joint ops prior to SOC. We will just change your books and procedures as well as a few other things, which will allow the FAA to sign off on this gene pool mixing before SOC.
That could be what people were referring to when they told me about SOC in April.
12-14-2008, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I have been wondering about this too. I was just told the same thing. They would love to do all of the rebasing right now well the loads are down and they could train more, but there are a few issues with doing so.
The decision has been made to keep most of the ops separate until SOC.
I have also understood it to be that the 757 guys from NWA may be able to do joint ops prior to SOC. We will just change your books and procedures as well as a few other things, which will allow the FAA to sign off on this gene pool mixing before SOC.
That could be what people were referring to when they told me about SOC in April.
The decision has been made to keep most of the ops separate until SOC.
I have also understood it to be that the 757 guys from NWA may be able to do joint ops prior to SOC. We will just change your books and procedures as well as a few other things, which will allow the FAA to sign off on this gene pool mixing before SOC.
That could be what people were referring to when they told me about SOC in April.
12-14-2008, 05:09 AM
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While we are on the subject of joint ops, I find it hard to believe that any carrier is less tech savvy than NW. For the longest time we had a guy using index cards in a shoebox for scheduling training.
I heard that Delta uses a castrated version of ACARS. Some of the automated functions are not hooked up like logging the takeoffs and landing for each leg.
True???
I heard that Delta uses a castrated version of ACARS. Some of the automated functions are not hooked up like logging the takeoffs and landing for each leg.
True???
12-14-2008, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
While we are on the subject of joint ops, I find it hard to believe that any carrier is less tech savvy than NW. For the longest time we had a guy using index cards in a shoebox for scheduling training.
I heard that Delta uses a castrated version of ACARS. Some of the automated functions are not hooked up like logging the takeoffs and landing for each leg.
True???
I heard that Delta uses a castrated version of ACARS. Some of the automated functions are not hooked up like logging the takeoffs and landing for each leg.
True???
12-14-2008, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
757/767 integrated operations requires a lot to be accomplished. I would not expect it before next year. They have not even agreed yet on what the integrated cockpit procedures are going to be. Once they do that they have to retrain everyone on the new procedures. This may or may not require a simulator ride depending on the changes. They have to rewrite all the books. They have to provide differences training between the types and in the case of NWA pilots it looks like two 767 simulator rides will be required. None of this is going to happen fast and with the new 767 program manager living in Seattle and trying to commute to ATL he will have limited time to work on all this.
Yes, there are issues as you pointed out, but I have talked to people working on this program, and I think that they are a lot farther than anyone thinks. IMHO
12-14-2008, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Yes, there are issues as you pointed out, but I have talked to people working on this program, and I think that they are a lot farther than anyone thinks. IMHO
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