Delta Age 65 retirement numbers right here. Can someone post NWA numbers please?
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 514929)
The net difference in retirements over the next 10 years between Delta and NWA is less then 300 pilots. It may in fact be the 274 number the arbitrators picked. Its not as huge as often posted here.
George Can someone please post the age 65 retirements for NWA? Here it is for Delta - and these numbers are EXACT as of 12/09/2008 These are age 65 retirements, gentlemen - the only sure thing. 2008 0 2009 0 2010 0 2011 0 2012 2 2013 58 2014 71 2015 87 2016 131 2017 157 2018 217 That is the end of ten years - a total of 723 Delta age 65 retirements. For those who want to look farther out (And if you are a Northwest guy and didn't know this, the Delta retirements exceed the NWA retirements from years 11-20, so once we get beyond that mark, you guys will actually move up faster than you would have if you were stand-alone, just like Delta guys will move up quicker than they would have stand-alone for the first 10 years of our merger). I'll keep going - since I have the numbers right here: 2019 266 2020 334 2021 477 2022 551 2023 526 2024 521 2025 455 2026 397 2027 296 2028 278 ______20 Year Mark right here________ 2029 261 2030 282 2031 240 2032 164 2033 147 2034 89 2035 51 That's 4101 for years 10-20. Add that to the previous ten years, that is 4,824 for a 20 year total. |
Retirement?
Not to dispute your numbers, but, it is no longer correct to use the word retirement when talking about any up coming job terminations. We used to have a retirement but the Dead Zoners (Delta term for those who lost around a million or more [' 86 hire...1.7 mil for me even after it had been slashed in letter 51 ] have no chance of retireing on what they have earned from Delta. Been to two ALPA R&I seminars and heard the same thing both times.
Everyone has a different situation and different set of numbers but for me, personally, with the claim sale, the note, PBGC, and saving 85% of my take home since 2004 there is still no chance of earning enough to get back the earned portion of the retirement that the company stole. And that was true even before the stock market crashed. Yes, some Delta pilots will loose their jobs in the near years ahead but they better have another source of income other than Delta. That said...Nothing we can do about it now. The best plan from here forward is to all join together, put our paddles in the water and row in the same direction. But don't forget. Every dime you spend from here forward is one you didn't save for the date you get terminated. |
Surely one of you Delta pilots formerly known as NWA pilots :D has the pre-merger NWA retirement numbers for each year? Doesn't your ALPA website have a career predictor tool that shows retirements (age 65) for each year as well as your projected seniority?
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Originally Posted by PackTrip
(Post 516639)
Surely one of you Delta pilots formerly known as NWA pilots :D has the pre-merger NWA retirement numbers for each year? Doesn't your ALPA website have a career predictor tool that shows retirements (age 65) for each year as well as your projected seniority?
Sorry dude. I think I put my response on another thread. I don't know of anywhere on our ALPA site that has that info for us. We have a program that will give us our retirements that are projected for those that are senior to us, but nothing for the whole group. Maybe one of our new hires can access the EZopenboard service and run the numbers. |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 516649)
Pack,
Sorry dude. I think I put my response on another thread. I don't know of anywhere on our ALPA site that has that info for us. We have a program that will give us our retirements that are projected for those that are senior to us, but nothing for the whole group. Maybe one of our new hires can access the EZopenboard service and run the numbers. |
I don't know how much access you can get at EZopenboard.com, but the guy already has the new arbitrated seniority numbers up and running and any NWA guy can now go on and see what their projected seniority # will be every year until retirement. (65)
Oh, it's free. Hey, why not go on there and email the guy and ask him for his "numbers." His name is Steve. |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 516658)
I don't know how much access you can get at EZopenboard.com, but the guy already has the new arbitrated seniority numbers up and running and any NWA guy can now go on and see what their projected seniority # will be every year until retirement. (65)
Oh, it's free. Hey, why not go on there and email the guy and ask him for his "numbers." His name is Steve. |
NWA age 65 retirements from ezopenboard...based upon my birthday month for my retirement (Jan) so the numbers should be very close to total retirements...Hope this helps.
2009 9 2010 8 2011 15 2012 15 2013 22 2014 124 2015 182 2016 199 2017 210 2018 231 2019 258 2020 288 2021 287 |
Originally Posted by makoshark72
(Post 517028)
NWA age 65 retirements from ezopenboard...based upon my birthday month for my retirement (Jan) so the numbers should be very close to total retirements...Hope this helps.
2009 9 2010 8 2011 15 2012 15 2013 22 2014 124 2015 182 2016 199 2017 210 2018 231 2019 258 2020 288 2021 287 I was trying to figure out the pull out / plug in number the arbitrators chose. |
Originally Posted by makoshark72
(Post 517028)
NWA age 65 retirements from ezopenboard...based upon my birthday month for my retirement (Jan) so the numbers should be very close to total retirements...Hope this helps.
2009 9 2010 8 2011 15 2012 15 2013 22 2014 124 2015 182 2016 199 2017 210 2018 231 2019 258 2020 288 2021 287 |
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