Unofficial Guide to Advanced Entitlement (APA)
01-14-2009, 06:56 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Isn't there also a part where, if they don't use you the first day, you have no further commitment? Example: They take a 4-day for IOE. You have 23K recovery on the first day, but if you don't get reassigned, you are free of duty for the next three days. My "When Scheduling Calls" is in my brainbag and I'm not sure about the exact verbage.
Thanks,
That sounds great...
01-18-2009, 09:27 AM
#12
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
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Here are the recovery flying obligations from the DAL contract prior to the JCBA. I don't think they have changed. Section 23 G. 5. a. is the removal for IOE etc.
K. Rotation Guarantee Recovery
1. A regular pilot who is removed from a rotation due to IROPS affecting his rotation (other
than an FAR 30-in-7 conflict) or under Section 23 G. 5. a. and is notified of the change to
such rotation before the airborne departure of its first flight segment, will remain
available and may be assigned and report for recovery flying as follows:
a. The pilot will report at the scheduled report for his recovery flying if:
1) the removal is from his first flight segment, and
2) prior to his originally scheduled report he is:
a) notified of such removal, and
b) assigned recovery flying.
b. If the removal is from his first flight segment, and he is notified of such removal prior
to his originally scheduled report, but has not been assigned recovery flying as of
such report, the pilot:
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1) will be promptly available for contact by Crew Scheduling from such report until
the earlier of:
a) six hours after such report,
b) his assignment to recovery flying, or
c) his release by Crew Scheduling from recovery obligations,
and
2) will be prepared to report promptly for his recovery flying.
c. If the removal is from his first flight segment, and he is notified of such removal after
he has reported for his original rotation, the pilot:
1) will be immediately available for contact by Crew Scheduling until the earlier of:
a) six hours after such report,
b) his assignment to recovery flying, or
c) his release by Crew Scheduling from recovery obligations,
and
2) will be prepared to depart immediately on his recovery flying.
Note: Such pilot will be on duty from report until release.
d. A pilot described in Section 23 K. 1. a., b., or c. may be assigned any recovery flying
provided:
1) the assignment is made no later than six hours after the pilot’s originally
scheduled report,
2) the recovery flying originates on any day of the originally scheduled rotation, and
3) the pilot is scheduled to be released no later than four hours from the scheduled
release of his original rotation, or the same calendar day, whichever is later.
Exception: An international category pilot may be assigned recovery flying
scheduled to release no more than 30 hours from the scheduled release of his
original rotation provided the last duty period of the recovery flying is a
transoceanic duty period.
Note: Such pilot may be entitled to lodging at his base under Section 5 E.
e. If the removal is from a flight segment other than his first, and occurs at a station
other than his base, the pilot may be assigned any recovery flying provided:
1) he is scheduled to be released no later than four hours from the scheduled release
of his original rotation, or the same calendar day, whichever is later, and
2) the recovery flying starts at the station where the removal occurs.
Exception: If necessary to ensure a pilot’s release within four hours of his originally
scheduled release, or the same calendar day, whichever is later, the pilot may be
assigned recovery flying starting earlier in the rotation.
f. If the removal is from a flight segment other than his first, and is at his base, the pilot
may be assigned to deadhead to and/or fly the balance of his originally scheduled
rotation. Such assignment may be made before or after the pilot receives a break-induty
at his base.
g. A pilot will be released from required availability under Section 23 K. 1. if:
1) Crew Scheduling agrees to release him, and
2) he waives his rotation guarantee.
2. A pilot who is removed from a white slip, GS, GSWC, IA, or IAWC rotation will have
standby and recovery obligations under Section 23 K. 1.
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This is cut and pasted from the old contract. "Promptly available" usually means around 2 hours. Looks like they have a six hour window to nail you for recovery flying starting at your original sign in.
Denny
K. Rotation Guarantee Recovery
1. A regular pilot who is removed from a rotation due to IROPS affecting his rotation (other
than an FAR 30-in-7 conflict) or under Section 23 G. 5. a. and is notified of the change to
such rotation before the airborne departure of its first flight segment, will remain
available and may be assigned and report for recovery flying as follows:
a. The pilot will report at the scheduled report for his recovery flying if:
1) the removal is from his first flight segment, and
2) prior to his originally scheduled report he is:
a) notified of such removal, and
b) assigned recovery flying.
b. If the removal is from his first flight segment, and he is notified of such removal prior
to his originally scheduled report, but has not been assigned recovery flying as of
such report, the pilot:
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1) will be promptly available for contact by Crew Scheduling from such report until
the earlier of:
a) six hours after such report,
b) his assignment to recovery flying, or
c) his release by Crew Scheduling from recovery obligations,
and
2) will be prepared to report promptly for his recovery flying.
c. If the removal is from his first flight segment, and he is notified of such removal after
he has reported for his original rotation, the pilot:
1) will be immediately available for contact by Crew Scheduling until the earlier of:
a) six hours after such report,
b) his assignment to recovery flying, or
c) his release by Crew Scheduling from recovery obligations,
and
2) will be prepared to depart immediately on his recovery flying.
Note: Such pilot will be on duty from report until release.
d. A pilot described in Section 23 K. 1. a., b., or c. may be assigned any recovery flying
provided:
1) the assignment is made no later than six hours after the pilot’s originally
scheduled report,
2) the recovery flying originates on any day of the originally scheduled rotation, and
3) the pilot is scheduled to be released no later than four hours from the scheduled
release of his original rotation, or the same calendar day, whichever is later.
Exception: An international category pilot may be assigned recovery flying
scheduled to release no more than 30 hours from the scheduled release of his
original rotation provided the last duty period of the recovery flying is a
transoceanic duty period.
Note: Such pilot may be entitled to lodging at his base under Section 5 E.
e. If the removal is from a flight segment other than his first, and occurs at a station
other than his base, the pilot may be assigned any recovery flying provided:
1) he is scheduled to be released no later than four hours from the scheduled release
of his original rotation, or the same calendar day, whichever is later, and
2) the recovery flying starts at the station where the removal occurs.
Exception: If necessary to ensure a pilot’s release within four hours of his originally
scheduled release, or the same calendar day, whichever is later, the pilot may be
assigned recovery flying starting earlier in the rotation.
f. If the removal is from a flight segment other than his first, and is at his base, the pilot
may be assigned to deadhead to and/or fly the balance of his originally scheduled
rotation. Such assignment may be made before or after the pilot receives a break-induty
at his base.
g. A pilot will be released from required availability under Section 23 K. 1. if:
1) Crew Scheduling agrees to release him, and
2) he waives his rotation guarantee.
2. A pilot who is removed from a white slip, GS, GSWC, IA, or IAWC rotation will have
standby and recovery obligations under Section 23 K. 1.
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This is cut and pasted from the old contract. "Promptly available" usually means around 2 hours. Looks like they have a six hour window to nail you for recovery flying starting at your original sign in.
Denny
01-18-2009, 08:14 PM
#13
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Position: M88A
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
This is cut and pasted from the old contract. "Promptly available" usually means around 2 hours. Looks like they have a six hour window to nail you for recovery flying starting at your original sign in.
Denny
Denny
Thanks for the info
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