Merged CAL/UAL seniority lists
08-03-2010, 10:31 AM
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No offense intended to anyone at Continental, but I too would much rather see United go it alone, their financials are some of the best in the industry. The only thing Continental brings to United is different "better" management that isn't hell bent on merging at any cost..
08-03-2010, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Coto Pilot
No offense intended to anyone at Continental, but I too would much rather see United go it alone, their financials are some of the best in the industry. The only thing Continental brings to United is different "better" management that isn't hell bent on merging at any cost..
11-30-2012, 07:38 AM
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CAL is a narrowbody airline. Those pilots have a career expectation of being narrowbody pilots. Most UAL pilots can hold widebody FO or Capt and almost all UAL pilot have a career expectation of being able to hold widebody Capt in their career. Just because some guys with 5 years seniority can hold Capt on a 737 in Guam, doesn't mean that some guy who is currently a FO at UAL and would hold widebody Capt for the last 5 years of his career should get shoved behind a bunch of CAL guys who would never be able to hold widebody Capt.
08-25-2013, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
CAL is a narrowbody airline. Those pilots have a career expectation of being narrowbody pilots. Most UAL pilots can hold widebody FO or Capt and almost all UAL pilot have a career expectation of being able to hold widebody Capt in their career. Just because some guys with 5 years seniority can hold Capt on a 737 in Guam, doesn't mean that some guy who is currently a FO at UAL and would hold widebody Capt for the last 5 years of his career should get shoved behind a bunch of CAL guys who would never be able to hold widebody Capt.
Actually my career expectations were to retire as a very senior widebody captain at Continental. Without this merger I would have been a widebody captain for almost twenty years (mostly in the 777 and 787).
08-25-2013, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Coto Pilot
No offense intended to anyone at Continental, but I too would much rather see United go it alone, their financials are some of the best in the industry. The only thing Continental brings to United is different "better" management that isn't hell bent on merging at any cost..
08-27-2013, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
CAL is a narrowbody airline. Those pilots have a career expectation of being narrowbody pilots. Most UAL pilots can hold widebody FO or Capt and almost all UAL pilot have a career expectation of being able to hold widebody Capt in their career. Just because some guys with 5 years seniority can hold Capt on a 737 in Guam, doesn't mean that some guy who is currently an FO at UAL and would hold widebody Capt for the last 5 years of his career should get shoved behind a bunch of CAL guys who would never be able to hold widebody Capt.
08-29-2013, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
CAL is a narrowbody airline. Those pilots have a career expectation of being narrowbody pilots. Most UAL pilots can hold widebody FO or Capt and almost all UAL pilot have a career expectation of being able to hold widebody Capt in their career.
Well, B787's are a coming. They have been delayed, but they are coming. Their previous game plan involved reliance on the network access to premium RASM's rather than acquire any additional wide bodies. I agree, but the vast majority of the 737 positions pay 757 pay. Most guys just look at their pay checks to really guage their career expectations. Flying a widebody airplane for sorry pay and work rules would be a step down and a step back for most legacy CAL pilots.
09-01-2013, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
Well, B787's are a coming. They have been delayed, but they are coming. Their previous game plan involved reliance on the network access to premium RASM's rather than acquire any additional wide bodies. I agree, but the vast majority of the 737 positions pay 757 pay. Most guys just look at their pay checks to really guage their career expectations. Flying a widebody airplane for sorry pay and work rules would be a step down and a step back for most legacy CAL pilots.
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