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DOGIII 01-26-2014 01:06 PM

New American Standby Priority
 
It seems the new american non rev priority to be implemented in the future has pilots and eligible travelers on the same boarding tier- decided by time of check in within the tier. Is this correct?
If so does anyone else have an issue with someone's domestic partner, registered guest etc going ahead of a pilot on his way to work? I hear it used to be this way but changed. Coming from the airways side this all new... Has anyone voiced any resistance to this?

AZFlyer 02-02-2014 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by DOGIII (Post 1567305)
It seems the new american non rev priority to be implemented in the future has pilots and eligible travelers on the same boarding tier- decided by time of check in within the tier. Is this correct?
If so does anyone else have an issue with someone's domestic partner, registered guest etc going ahead of a pilot on his way to work? I hear it used to be this way but changed. Coming from the airways side this all new... Has anyone voiced any resistance to this?

pilots aren't the only employees of an airline, you know...

Hal9000 02-02-2014 11:34 AM

That was the policy at America West.

Thedude 02-02-2014 06:47 PM

Its crap that a (non-accompanied) dependent and and the primary employee are now in the same boarding group.

pilotjockey 02-09-2014 12:05 PM

thats the way it is at some other airlines, too bad they don't keep a priority for employees traveling over unaccompanied dependents

there will be tweaks im sure just keep sending in emails, you cant get stuff changed on this forum it has to go up the chain at work

Timbo 02-10-2014 03:39 AM

That's the way it has always been at Delta. Until the kids are 23, they can pass ride alone with the same priority as the employee. Time of check in has no bearing on priority however. Strictly date of hire, unless it's a through flight at an intermediate stop, the non-rev onboard already has priority over anyone trying to get on at the intermediate stop.

About 25 years ago my wife was trying to get from BOS to FLL to go to work, she was a Delta F/A at the time. She missed out on the last seat out of BOS, which was taken by the 17yr. old son of a more senior pilot, who was on his way to Spring Break. We didn't have access to our own jumpseats back then, front or back. She did not make it to work.

Now that we do have jumpseat access, I almost always book the jumpseat vs. trying to get a seat in the back, unless it's a very light load, but I haven't seen much of that in years. I'd rather sit up front and talk to pilots vs. being squished into a center seat in the back...unless it's a 737, that jumpseat is torture!

Do you still have to pay extra to get into an empty Business Class seat when non-reving at AA?

DOGIII 02-12-2014 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 1572688)
pilots aren't the only employees of an airline, you know...

This is Airline PILOT Central, no?
I kid…
My post expressed dismay at domestic partners, registered guests etc going ahead of a pilot or any other employee for that matter. "Eligible Travelers" was refering to other people on the employee's pass.

rickair7777 02-13-2014 07:45 AM

I agree that employees (of any stripe) should bump unaccompanied dependents (of any seniority). My kid was going somewhere (leisure travel to meet friends) and he called and told me he made it but barely got on, and one of our pilots (in uniform going to work) got bumped. I lit into him over that, everybody in my family knows better.

egl2fdx 02-14-2014 05:36 PM

Doesn't USAirways have JS reservations? AA does not.

full of luv 02-14-2014 06:59 PM

Timbo,
Believe the stopover flt caveat died a couple of years ago now the reshuffle. I used the stopover flt rule to get to HnL a couple of times in the past but modern tech has made that caveat sail on by.

Skyvector 03-16-2014 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by DOGIII (Post 1567305)
It seems the new american non rev priority to be implemented in the future has pilots and eligible travelers on the same boarding tier- decided by time of check in within the tier. Is this correct?
If so does anyone else have an issue with someone's domestic partner, registered guest etc going ahead of a pilot on his way to work? I hear it used to be this way but changed. Coming from the airways side this all new... Has anyone voiced any resistance to this?

This is how non-rev travel has always been here at AA.

To be clear: your registered guests are D3. Pilots and other employees are D2 so therefore will always have a higher priority regardless of check in time.

But your spouse/companion is a D2 or D1 and can be a higher on the priority list if they checked in first. Check in is done online 24 hours before departure time.

Pilots always have the advantage of riding up in the jumpseat if all seats are full. Other employees and travelers get left behind.

FlyPKP 03-20-2014 04:39 PM

It looks like nonwholly owned express carriers are below registered guests and buddy passes as well, that should be fun...

DHC8202 03-21-2014 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by FlyPKP (Post 1606790)
It looks like nonwholly owned express carriers are below registered guests and buddy passes as well, that should be fun...

That's almost how it is in the DL system. Nonwholly owned's only beat out buddy passes. Makes getting to work awesome.

CaptKrunch 03-21-2014 08:09 AM

I personally am not happy about the new system. The us airways system was a lot more fair in my opinion.

EMBFlyer 03-21-2014 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by egl2fdx (Post 1581824)
Doesn't USAirways have JS reservations? AA does not.

Yes, up to 7 days out via an automated phone system. It's first come-first served. I hope it survives. It takes the stress out of commuting!

flythetube 03-21-2014 09:33 AM

It also makes a difference on AA/Eagle/Connection for parents of employees if they are traveling with the employee. Unaccompanied parents are D2P priority (and below all ordinary D2s regardless of check in time), but your parents are traveling with you, they can then be ordinary D2s.

Also any nonrev passenger who is transiting a city is automatically moved up ahead of passengers originating in that city (D2T ahead of D2, etc). So a pilot commuting MIA-ATL will always be below, for example, a spouse of another employee who went EYW-MIA-ATL using a D1 (but as was mentioned before, there's still the jumpseat)

air101 04-04-2014 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by DHC8202 (Post 1607190)
That's almost how it is in the DL system. Nonwholly owned's only beat out buddy passes. Makes getting to work awesome.

Unless its a SkyWest flight...they bump everyone, even my parents bump mainline employees on SkyWest flights.


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