Regionals Merging / Consolidating
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Regionals Merging / Consolidating
When do you guys think the regionals will begin to buy each other out/merge/consolidate in some form? To me it seems obvious that the regional airlines are going to have to consolidate in order to have a consistent supply of pilots. Why pay for them one by one (sign on bonuses) when you could buy a few thousand at a time (with financing I might add) by merging with or buying out another regional? Once they merge they can utilize us however they see fit and furlough the excess or take on as much flying as American/Delta/United can through at them.
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When do you guys think the regionals will begin to buy each other out/merge/consolidate in some form? To me it seems obvious that the regional airlines are going to have to consolidate in order to have a consistent supply of pilots. Why pay for them one by one (sign on bonuses) when you could buy a few thousand at a time (with financing I might add) by merging with or buying out another regional? Once they merge they can utilize us however they see fit and furlough the excess or take on as much flying as American/Delta/United can through at them.
You've already seen it the past year or so with transfers of 145's and 700's from one carrier to the next, both amongst privately held and wholly owned subsidiaries.
There won't be mergers. Just shrinking and shut downs. Mergers are a pipe dream of pilots.
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I think we have already seen this happen with the whole Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan --> Endeavor merger. As is usually the case, Delta was thinking ahead of the game.
I would think that we will see more consolidation as the current "regional" pilot supply situation plays itself out. I hope it doesn't but I fear that we are likely to see more TSA/Go Jet and SkyWest/ExpressJet kind of scenarios play out.
I would think that we will see more consolidation as the current "regional" pilot supply situation plays itself out. I hope it doesn't but I fear that we are likely to see more TSA/Go Jet and SkyWest/ExpressJet kind of scenarios play out.
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Regionals Merging / Consolidating
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There will be no more regional mergers. The "Pinacolaba" fiasco and the mess that Skywest/ASA/Expressjet are have shown (along with the shut down of Comair) that is is FAR more cost effective to close shop, transfer aircraft and rehire furloughees to the bottom of the list.
You've already seen it the past year or so with transfers of 145's and 700's from one carrier to the next, both amongst privately held and wholly owned subsidiaries.
There won't be mergers. Just shrinking and shut downs. Mergers are a pipe dream of pilots.
You've already seen it the past year or so with transfers of 145's and 700's from one carrier to the next, both amongst privately held and wholly owned subsidiaries.
There won't be mergers. Just shrinking and shut downs. Mergers are a pipe dream of pilots.
Possible exception if somebody needed the pilots more than the planes, and badly enough to buy an intact seniority list.
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Unfortunately, no regional pilot group will be able to thwart a merger involving their carrier. They will become bystanders to their future, the only issue being arguing an SLI in arbitration. Contractual items can (and likely will) be obtained via agreement in certain situations, the fate of the AA wholly-owneds being one of them in such a situation with a consolidation among some or all of them or with an outside carrier.
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There will be no more regional mergers. The "Pinacolaba" fiasco and the mess that Skywest/ASA/Expressjet are have shown (along with the shut down of Comair) that is is FAR more cost effective to close shop, transfer aircraft and rehire furloughees to the bottom of the list.
You've already seen it the past year or so with transfers of 145's and 700's from one carrier to the next, both amongst privately held and wholly owned subsidiaries.
There won't be mergers. Just shrinking and shut downs. Mergers are a pipe dream of pilots.
You've already seen it the past year or so with transfers of 145's and 700's from one carrier to the next, both amongst privately held and wholly owned subsidiaries.
There won't be mergers. Just shrinking and shut downs. Mergers are a pipe dream of pilots.
One thing is certain and that is ALPA national will bend over backward to facilitate whatever consolidation occurs among the regional pilots they represent.
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I think we have already seen this happen with the whole Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan --> Endeavor merger. As is usually the case, Delta was thinking ahead of the game.
I would think that we will see more consolidation as the current "regional" pilot supply situation plays itself out. I hope it doesn't but I fear that we are likely to see more TSA/Go Jet and SkyWest/ExpressJet kind of scenarios play out.
I would think that we will see more consolidation as the current "regional" pilot supply situation plays itself out. I hope it doesn't but I fear that we are likely to see more TSA/Go Jet and SkyWest/ExpressJet kind of scenarios play out.
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