View Poll Results: Are you voting to pass the TA?
Yes
13
13.27%
No
74
75.51%
Undecided
11
11.22%
Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll
MAG 2017 TA Poll
06-23-2017, 11:39 AM
#21
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,145
Originally Posted by Tpinks
Mesa is the cheapest regional out there and United is protecting that. Otherwise, we would have had an IAH base at republic a long time ago. The fact is, if Republic or Skywest opens up an IAH base, Mesa is all but gone without a new on par or more contract.
06-23-2017, 10:54 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,897
Originally Posted by Another pilot
A no vote means you want the company to fold.
Ual will whipsaw the planes to another carrier and we will be on the street. It's a matter of principal to them. They've given some money and we spit in their face. They will take their ball and go home.
It's mediocre money from a mediocre company. Like most I'm trying to get out before the rest of the rats are swimming in the water with me. For me it's about 20% more than I'm getting now. I was a no but I don't want 1000 pilots applying for the bottom of the list at the other regionals.
Imho
Ual will whipsaw the planes to another carrier and we will be on the street. It's a matter of principal to them. They've given some money and we spit in their face. They will take their ball and go home.
It's mediocre money from a mediocre company. Like most I'm trying to get out before the rest of the rats are swimming in the water with me. For me it's about 20% more than I'm getting now. I was a no but I don't want 1000 pilots applying for the bottom of the list at the other regionals.
Imho
One shouldn't vote "yes" to accept mediocrity just to maintain the status quo at a regional lagging in pay/benefits/work rules out of fear if they strive to be better it's the end of the company.
06-24-2017, 07:27 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 145
Originally Posted by C172
I would vote NO solely on the fact of y'alls healthcare! Wake up MESA pilots!!
You have a choice to work at MESA. Work somewhere else! Vote with your feet.
You have a choice to work at MESA. Work somewhere else! Vote with your feet.
Healthcare is a basic requirement to gainful employment in the United States. Mesa simply avoids paying for it not only for the pilot's, but for the company as a whole. Since the company is unwilling to properly insure, then the very least they can do is compensate as average pay, not below.
06-24-2017, 08:29 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: CRJ F/O
Posts: 239
Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
Yeah. The union says health care was low on the polling data. How did they ask? Who did they ask?
Healthcare is a basic requirement to gainful employment in the United States. Mesa simply avoids paying for it not only for the pilot's, but for the company as a whole. Since the company is unwilling to properly insure, then the very least they can do is compensate as average pay, not below.
Healthcare is a basic requirement to gainful employment in the United States. Mesa simply avoids paying for it not only for the pilot's, but for the company as a whole. Since the company is unwilling to properly insure, then the very least they can do is compensate as average pay, not below.
06-24-2017, 09:43 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 737
Originally Posted by Another pilot
A no vote means you want the company to fold.
Ual will whipsaw the planes to another carrier and we will be on the street. It's a matter of principal to them. They've given some money and we spit in their face. They will take their ball and go home.
It's mediocre money from a mediocre company. Like most I'm trying to get out before the rest of the rats are swimming in the water with me. For me it's about 20% more than I'm getting now. I was a no but I don't want 1000 pilots applying for the bottom of the list at the other regionals.
Imho
Ual will whipsaw the planes to another carrier and we will be on the street. It's a matter of principal to them. They've given some money and we spit in their face. They will take their ball and go home.
It's mediocre money from a mediocre company. Like most I'm trying to get out before the rest of the rats are swimming in the water with me. For me it's about 20% more than I'm getting now. I was a no but I don't want 1000 pilots applying for the bottom of the list at the other regionals.
Imho
A no vote doesn't mean you want the company to fold, it means you expect at least an average contract commensurate with the rest of the industry. We still don't have that.
In mediation, they achieved a TA within a month and a half. If we vote no and go back to mediation, we can work out another fairly quickly. The company is willing, we just need to push the negioators and MEC to accept nothing less than we deserve. Regardless of what Max said yesterday, there will not be another polling or any delays other than what the mediator thinks. No reason to be parked.
Don't let fear make you a yes vote. Vote yes or no on whether you think it deserves that vote.
06-24-2017, 02:25 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: E175 Captain
Posts: 49
Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
Yeah. The union says health care was low on the polling data. How did they ask? Who did they ask?
Healthcare is a basic requirement to gainful employment in the United States. Mesa simply avoids paying for it not only for the pilot's, but for the company as a whole. Since the company is unwilling to properly insure, then the very least they can do is compensate as average pay, not below.
Healthcare is a basic requirement to gainful employment in the United States. Mesa simply avoids paying for it not only for the pilot's, but for the company as a whole. Since the company is unwilling to properly insure, then the very least they can do is compensate as average pay, not below.
These so called polls did not allow us to truly state what our pilot group needs. These were done in a manner that the union can now say, "We heard heard you and negotiated for what you wanted"
06-24-2017, 06:10 PM
#30
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,480
Originally Posted by calmwinds
That could be. UAL also doesn't want all their eggs in the SW basket or SW would already be in IAH. SW is the only regional with surplus Ejet pilots other than the wholly owned regionals. You could be at SW where a first year Ejet FO is lucky to get 400 hours. At least, we build our time toward our next job.
Mesa needs to add 200 net pilots and the bonuses will just get larger to attract pilots if this doesn't pass.
Mesa needs to add 200 net pilots and the bonuses will just get larger to attract pilots if this doesn't pass.
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