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Old 07-05-2017, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MAGNegotiations View Post
The problem with APC and you just saying that pay is $38 is because it is artificially inflated due to an LOA. Year 1 pay rates are $25.84 per Envoy contract. The Negotiating Committee has access to current contracts and LOAs at all ALPA carriers and have verified first year pay contract rates.
Ok. Does Republic and CommutAir has an LOA for why their pay is higher than ur quoted industry standards pay? The think is, at the end of the day Envoy won't rollback to $25 as much as its an LOA
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Old 07-05-2017, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MAGNegotiations View Post
The problem with APC and you just saying that pay is $38 is because it is artificially inflated due to an LOA. Year 1 pay rates are $25.84 per Envoy contract. The Negotiating Committee has access to current contracts and LOAs at all ALPA carriers and have verified first year pay contract rates.
And APC explained the same thing u explained so if they are inaccurate in saying that then so are you. APC didnt inflate it, you didnt either. APC just stated facts from whats happening at the company. My point is, u cant just throw a wrench in APC accuracy just to say mesa current TA is above industry standards of $32.99. No FO will see it that way and neither should u for determining a good TA.
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Old 07-05-2017, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgood View Post
And APC explained the same thing u explained. APC didnt inflate it. It just stated facts from whats happening at the company. My point is, u cant just throw a wrench in APC accuracy just to say mesa current TA is above industry standards of $32.99
There is no mention of contract 1st year pay rates 25.84.
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Old 07-05-2017, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MAGNegotiations View Post
There is no mention of contract 1st year pay rates 25.84.
And you didn't mention that after an FOs first year of service with Envoy they will get year 4 FO pay. Does that mean ur not accurate? No, u simply just didnt mention it. Doesn't mean ur not accurate in everything else u stated. And I'm still wondering abt all the other regionals that are above $32.99.

Ur just talking about 1.
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Old 07-06-2017, 11:04 AM
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Exclamation Vote for you and Mesa not because of APC

To all the Mesa peeps that have a say in this vote. You should vote for you and your pilot group and not listen to all the keyboard commandos out there. If it is the best you think ( and the negotiators think) you can get then vote it in. If not, vote it down. worst thing that happens is you shut your doors and you now actually have priority hiring at all alpa Carriers. Something you obviously don't have now. Look at it as a Mesa Flow thru agreement. Personally i think AA and United did the math and came up with numbers that would be the break even for them. This is how much we will give for new contract, if it passes great, it's still cheaper than the alternative of letting mesa die a slow death and cancel flights for no crew to fly them. If it fails, United simply pull the 175's Mesa doesn't own and gives them to Skywest or Republic. Mesa Mainline becomes newly minted CRJ FO's ( 75% of them are too junior to hold CRJ captain) and staffing problem is fixed. Mesa AA planes are staffed and the CRJ 700's in IAD are now staffed as well. Good luck... Still say the best vote you can do is vote with your feet...Leave before the mushroom cloud gets too big...
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:26 AM
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Congratulations for passing the worst contract in the industry. We should all be so proud.
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:12 AM
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Congratulations for passing the worst contract in the industry. We should all be so proud.
With an even higher rate of Yes votes than Skywest.
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Old 12-29-2021, 02:14 PM
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Hey Guys,

What's your LTD plan under the new contract?

Thanks
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