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Old 06-25-2017, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Yep, go with Republic if you like their bases, or their upgrade times.
Yeah but then you might actually have to buy a suit, study some gouges, answer real questions in front of an interview panel, and prove you're a professional and competent pilot worthy of a position.

I guess answering the phone and accepting a class date after 15 minutes of discussion is good enough to be considered AVERAGE when compared to the rest of the industry.
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Old 06-25-2017, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
There are valid reasons for wanting to fly the Ejet for Mesa. First, a pilot might live in the Houston area. Second, a pilot may want to build Ejet time quickly to progress their career. Either of these are valid reasons to sign with Mesa on the Ejet. With either of these reasons, you may not care about the pay as much - except $36 is better than $22.
Flying an E-Jet does absolutely zero for your career, over a CRJ 7/9, and in fact, is a detriment to your piloting skills, at least in the eyes of where I work. Some places still respect stick and rudder. The CRJ is a pilots aircraft, I miss flying it. What I fly now is an amazing airplane, but also a huge detriment to ones stick and rudder skills. You can turn off the automation, and I do hand fly it, but I also only spend maybe 1/4 to 1/8 as much time actually flying. This is why a very strong emphasis of stick and rudder skills is placed on new people, to have that foundation before coming to where I work now.
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Old 06-25-2017, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MagPBS View Post
No it doesn't. (The ready comment)
My mistake, I thought there was a line in one of the interpretations that included a line about post-flying duty to not include airport standby.
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Old 06-25-2017, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by StartCart View Post
Yeah but then you might actually have to buy a suit, study some gouges, answer real questions in front of an interview panel, and prove you're a professional and competent pilot worthy of a position.

I guess answering the phone and accepting a class date after 15 minutes of discussion is good enough to be considered AVERAGE when compared to the rest of the industry.
Touché. Why is a Republic guy on a Mesa forum?
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Old 06-25-2017, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
Flying an E-Jet does absolutely zero for your career, over a CRJ 7/9, and in fact, is a detriment to your piloting skills, at least in the eyes of where I work. Some places still respect stick and rudder. The CRJ is a pilots aircraft, I miss flying it. What I fly now is an amazing airplane, but also a huge detriment to ones stick and rudder skills. You can turn off the automation, and I do hand fly it, but I also only spend maybe 1/4 to 1/8 as much time actually flying. This is why a very strong emphasis of stick and rudder skills is placed on new people, to have that foundation before coming to where I work now.
I simply said that pilots want to fly the Ejet. That is simply a fact. And, flying a CRJ doesn't do anything more or less for your career than an Ejet. The majors don't care. Time is time.

Why is someone who isn't at Mesa on our forum about our contract?
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Old 06-25-2017, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post

Why is someone who isn't at Mesa on our forum about our contract?
It seems like yesterday I was at Mesa. I'm not telling you how to vote, but the rest of the industry has a vested interest in what you guys do. It's very eye opening being on the outside now, having experienced an alternate reality. Many of my friends are still at Mesa, so I still care. Believe it or not, the real question everyone asks about you guys is not if you're going to vote yes or no, but rather, "why are you still there?"
Thats what the people on the outside talk about.
I'm not questioning that, I understand everyone has different life circumstances , and it's none of anyone else's business.
This is why people may find it too hard to not be on your forum.
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Old 06-26-2017, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
It seems like yesterday I was at Mesa. I'm not telling you how to vote, but the rest of the industry has a vested interest in what you guys do. It's very eye opening being on the outside now, having experienced an alternate reality. Many of my friends are still at Mesa, so I still care. Believe it or not, the real question everyone asks about you guys is not if you're going to vote yes or no, but rather, "why are you still there?"
Thats what the people on the outside talk about.
I'm not questioning that, I understand everyone has different life circumstances , and it's none of anyone else's business.
This is why people may find it too hard to not be on your forum.
Yeah, because these non-Mesa pilots pretend like they are a Mesa pilot on our forum, telling us how to vote. Y'all are as bad as the Russians.

I have no clue why you are here and not letting your friends still at Mesa speak for themselves. Just get off our forum and let us vote.
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Old 06-26-2017, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Navmode View Post

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The Houston people might love saying "EJET" for some reason, but an rj is an rj. Don't delude yourself into thinking that any legit carrier you dream of flying for cares if the engines are under the wing or whether or not it has auto brakes.
Unless they have the desire to be a lifer at Mesa. In that case, they should want a better TA.
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Old 06-26-2017, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
No major carrier cares what you fly when they hire you. It is hours in seat and who you know.

Most IAH Mesa pilots don't care about the EJet either, but it is UAL that cares about the EJet. If you live in a UAL base, you better want to fly the EJet. It doesn't matter if it is ORD, IAH, or SFO.

My bet is the EJet comes to IAD for Mesa. You want to live In a UAL base, you better fly the EJet.
Out of curiosity, why so?
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Old 06-26-2017, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Yeah, because these non-Mesa pilots pretend like they are a Mesa pilot on our forum, telling us how to vote. Y'all are as bad as the Russians.

I have no clue why you are here and not letting your friends still at Mesa speak for themselves. Just get off our forum and let us vote.
What is up with this stupid argument that we keep hearing to get off and let us vote? Unless it's JO with 6 profiles posting the same thing. We all have an interest in this, we are under the same Union. If you pass a crappy TA that means we will have to deal with it at our negotiations don't you see?
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