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Old 06-26-2017, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Yeah, because these non-Mesa pilots pretend like they are a Mesa pilot on our forum, telling us how to vote. Y'all are as bad as the Russians.

I have no clue why you are here and not letting your friends still at Mesa speak for themselves. Just get off our forum and let us vote.
It's not YOUR forum. It's an OPEN forum about Mesa...
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Old 06-26-2017, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Yeah, because these non-Mesa pilots pretend like they are a Mesa pilot on our forum, telling us how to vote. Y'all are as bad as the Russians.

I have no clue why you are here and not letting your friends still at Mesa speak for themselves. Just get off our forum and let us vote.
There are numerous Mesa folks here voicing their opinions. Fair play even if they are not employees. Its a public forum and input is welcome from all.
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Old 06-26-2017, 06:49 AM
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No it doesn't. (The ready comment)
Yes, the ready, airport standby comment. But....

Leaving the airport with a call out???? Sound like being on short/long call reserve. Not the idea behind the FDP rule IMO. How can you have two two hour call outs. No word about that in the TA. In section 13 how is possible to have four options of what happens to you once you block in after a reserve trip?????? Three possible if you read the FDP definition. Fly more, on the schedule once block in, ready reserve (how is this paid when assigned like this, you gotta spell it out negotiators!!), or you go home. NO way does the definition mention say you go back on short/long call. You union people just don't get it. Stop backing what the 'company wants'. Listen to the pilot group union people. You are here for US, not them.
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Old 06-26-2017, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Yeah, because these non-Mesa pilots pretend like they are a Mesa pilot on our forum, telling us how to vote. Y'all are as bad as the Russians.

I have no clue why you are here and not letting your friends still at Mesa speak for themselves. Just get off our forum and let us vote.
Typical Democrat. Why debate when you can just tell them to go away?

Need I remind you Trump won because of all the silent people who were told to (in a nice way for the forum) be quiet. Democrats haven't learned a thing. You will need to debate to change minds.
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Old 06-26-2017, 07:02 AM
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Non-Mesa guy here. So I will try to make it short to get out the door before the pitchforks and firebrands make it to my hind end.

IMHO: don't accept a contract that's sub-standard when your fight was to get on that was standard. Keep focused on the objective. This TA doesn't look like the objective.

Cheers. *door slam*
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Old 06-26-2017, 07:02 AM
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For the good of the industry, this TA must be voted down. This industry has no room for the selfish. You must consider your brother and sister pilots, here, and at other airlines. The bar must raise.
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Old 06-26-2017, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wt93205 View Post
Typical Democrat. Why debate when you can just tell them to go away?

Need I remind you Trump won because of all the silent people who were told to (in a nice way for the forum) be quiet. Democrats haven't learned a thing. You will need to debate to change minds.
Yuck. Bad choice of an example to make your argument bud.
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Old 06-26-2017, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Yeah, because these non-Mesa pilots pretend like they are a Mesa pilot on our forum, telling us how to vote. Y'all are as bad as the Russians.

I have no clue why you are here and not letting your friends still at Mesa speak for themselves. Just get off our forum and let us vote.
I am a Mesa pilot. I welcome the input from outside people. This not just about the contract at Mesa. This has an impact on the entire regional airline industry. If we vote in a substand contract it lowers the industry average and affects the negotiating process at other companies. This vote is not just about our own wallets.

Now do you have a clue??? By the way, I am not Russian.
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Old 06-26-2017, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sumtinwong View Post
Yuck. Bad choice of an example to make your argument bud.
How so? If you don't debate you won't change minds. I have yet to meet a democrat who wants to debate other then tell me I am wrong or like you, say it is a bad example. Again, how so. Explain in detail that would convince me it was a bad example. I sense another democrat and yes voter...

This contract is horrible compared to the other regionals. Hard to debate that. Yet guys like calmwinds just keep telling people who are not in agreement with them to go away, or call you names when you do speak up, because that is the easy way out.
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Old 06-26-2017, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205 View Post
How so? If you don't debate you won't change minds. I have yet to meet a democrat who wants to debate.
Riiiiiggggghhhht...........
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