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Santos Dumont 09-20-2017 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Sennant (Post 2433020)
Sap is noon phx on the 20th. That's when flica turns on.

They're in the pbs software. Should be in crewweb also (haven't looked myself).

Yes, I already saw my schedule on the PBS awards. But if I remember correctly they were posted on Flica for ease of viewing before the SAP along with the open time. The new timeline says they should have been published yesterday at 1200PHX.

MagPBS 09-20-2017 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Santos Dumont (Post 2433100)
Yes, I already saw my schedule on the PBS awards. But if I remember correctly they were posted on Flica for ease of viewing before the SAP along with the open time. The new timeline says they should have been published yesterday at 1200PHX.

Flica has always posted the day SAP opens. Sometimes a few minutes before, sometimes a few hours before.

The timeline requires that PBS results be published in PBS by the Noon on the 19th. Which it was. There's no stipulation that it also has to be in any of the other software packages.

SAP goes live today (20th) at noon and Flica will have schedules then.

Santos Dumont 09-20-2017 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by MagPBS (Post 2433106)
Flica has always posted the day SAP opens. Sometimes a few minutes before, sometimes a few hours before.

The timeline requires that PBS results be published in PBS by the Noon on the 19th. Which it was. There's no stipulation that it also has to be in any of the other software packages.

SAP goes live today (20th) at noon and Flica will have schedules then.

Yes, I saw it posted yesterday everywhere except Flica. I must have gotten confused. I remember seeing my schedule on Flica waiting for the SAP to open, hence the schedule posted on Flica before the SAP under the old timeline. Just wanted to clarify and make sure that everything is going according to the new timeline. Thank you,

MagPBS 09-20-2017 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Santos Dumont (Post 2433112)
Yes, I saw it posted yesterday everywhere except Flica. I must have gotten confused. I remember seeing my schedule on Flica waiting for the SAP to open, hence the schedule posted on Flica before the SAP under the old timeline. Just wanted to clarify and make sure that everything is going according to the new timeline. Thank you,

There didn't use to be a gap between PBS required awards and SAP starting. The new timeline has a 24 hour delay built in so any issues can be resolved before SAP opens.

Also, SAP/FLICA is run by a different division within the company. That falls under Crew Line vs PBS is Crew Planning. Crew Line has to wait from Planning to load everything before they can do their part.

Uffda 09-20-2017 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by MagPBS (Post 2432827)
Well, without looking at your bid I can't comment specifically. But I can comment generically.

1. Go look at the numbers I put up in the Mesa Scheduling section. I think that will go a long way to explaining why coverage awards have been increasing.

2. Contractual min guarantee is not the same as minimum credit required for a line. So yes, 78 can be set as the minimum line value as long as it's posted on the info page when PBS opens. Which it was.

Am I looking at this correctly, every pairing for every FO was assigned for coverage in one of the bases? I thought unstacking was to be used from the bottom up by seniority, as necessary, not as a wholesale method of ignoring what pilots "prefer" and cramming every hour of flying on everbody's schedule and leaving little to nothing in opentime.

mjpilot 09-20-2017 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Uffda (Post 2433371)
Am I looking at this correctly, every pairing for every FO was assigned for coverage in one of the bases? I thought unstacking was to be used from the bottom up by seniority, as necessary, not as a wholesale method of ignoring what pilots "prefer" and cramming every hour of flying on everbody's schedule and leaving little to nothing in opentime.

Same $hit happened to me on the captain side.

MagPBS 09-20-2017 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Uffda (Post 2433371)
Am I looking at this correctly, every pairing for every FO was assigned for coverage in one of the bases? I thought unstacking was to be used from the bottom up by seniority, as necessary, not as a wholesale method of ignoring what pilots "prefer" and cramming every hour of flying on everbody's schedule and leaving little to nothing in opentime.

No you're not. Only about 50% of the FO's in IAH got unstacked.

MagPBS 09-20-2017 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by mjpilot (Post 2433434)
Same $hit happened to me on the captain side.

Now on the Captain side, different story. Basically it's 100% and still have almost 700 hours uncovered.

Uffda 09-20-2017 06:35 PM

Let's talk PBS Training
 

Originally Posted by MagPBS (Post 2433466)
No you're not. Only about 50% of the FO's in IAH got unstacked.



Not referring to IAH you're one letter off, all purple instead of teal.

MagPBS 09-21-2017 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Uffda (Post 2433475)
Not referring to IAH you're one letter off, all purple instead of teal.

Went back and re-read. You don't mention a base specifically, you are right. Think I based it off the comment that followed.

DFW FO, IAD FO, and for the most part IAH CA all saw total unstacking.

DFW CA & PHX FO both saw targetted unstacking, but up to the #1 person.


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