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10-23-2018, 07:15 AM
#321
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals
It is actually quite simple...either people learn it correctly, or we don’t get full CAT 2 privileges. I agree 200% the callouts SUCK, but again that doesn’t matter unfortunately.
Also, don’t you think it has to be taught correctly for it to be learned correctly? Where do we teach it in the SIM? JFK, IAD, IAH. All flat land airports. The whole concepts of using BARO only become real when flying a CAT II into ATL (or similar airport) where you have varying terrain.
And, screwing it up during a line check should send both pilots back to the SIM to be requalified in CAT II...: Unfortunately, we are too short of pilots to do that.
10-23-2018, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
I need to look at you guys checklist we got it figured out on the CRJ. But there were problems
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10-23-2018, 09:08 AM
#324
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Do you really think the CRJ crews would pass today? We struggle on more than items on the checklist. When I sat right seat and we would fly practice approaches, we had captains take the controls too early, too late, use the radar altimeter, blow the PM callouts. It didn’t matter how much we would brief it.
Another round of Hogan's went out yesterday!
10-23-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 20sx
I don't find it difficult on the CRJ, just something that should be practiced more than once a year in the sim.
Another round of Hogan's went out yesterday!
Another round of Hogan's went out yesterday!
10-23-2018, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Do you really think the CRJ crews would pass today? We struggle on more than items on the checklist. When I sat right seat and we would fly practice approaches, we had captains take the controls too early, too late, use the radar altimeter, blow the PM callouts. It didn’t matter how much we would brief it.
10-23-2018, 06:57 PM
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Of all the approaches I learned to fly on the 175 at Republic the Cat2 was the easiest. Only difference between that and Cat1 was the need to read a laundry list of items off the Cat2 briefing checklist on the supplemental procedures card and plug in ice speeds. Then we just flew the damn thing like a coupled Cat 1. Seriously...easiest thing ever.
If Republic can teach bugsmasher GA pilots like me to fly a Cat2, they're doing it the right way. Maybe it's time Mesa and everyone else who flies the 175 just stop trying to reinvent the wheel and use Republic's SOP because it works.
If Republic can teach bugsmasher GA pilots like me to fly a Cat2, they're doing it the right way. Maybe it's time Mesa and everyone else who flies the 175 just stop trying to reinvent the wheel and use Republic's SOP because it works.
10-23-2018, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
We practice them. I think it’s a pretty easy deal. Know the callouts. Did an actual one at BHM a few weeks ago. Don’t skip things on the briefing card thinking you know them. Law of recency.
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