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08-20-2018, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Here is the skinny:
Envoy has a DFW base. You will probably be based elsewhere and have to transfer back. Probably flying a 145 or 175. Older pilots have preference in aircraft and base.
Envoy has a DFW base. You will probably be based elsewhere and have to transfer back. Probably flying a 145 or 175. Older pilots have preference in aircraft and base.
Originally Posted by calmwinds
Republic has a IAH base. Ask about the hire date of the junior FO and junior CA in IAH. They fly the 170/175. They have a good reputation.
Originally Posted by calmwinds
ExpressJet is losing their DFW base. ExpressJet has a IAH base. Ask about the hire date of the junior FO and junior CA in IAH. Recruiters and management and trolls there can lie so be careful. They are touting new CRJ200 flying (announced) and 175 flying (promised if the pilots enter into a long term contract - looks like GoJet 700’s are being replaced with 175’s). Neither will likely be IAH based. So, plan on the 145 in IAH.
Originally Posted by calmwinds
Mesa has a DFW and IAH base. DFW is the CRJ and IAH is the 175. It is what it is. You fly a lot. You upgrade quickly. You move on. Just be careful to not cross aircraft in your upgrade. There are also downsides: insurance costs and schedule flexibility once assigned.
Originally Posted by calmwinds
If you are a decent pilot and can afford to take your time at a regional, Republic and Envoy have the best reputations.
i can go pay for an ATP out of my own pocket, or i can trade a place like mesa / republic a couple of years of my life in exchange for good recent jet experience and an ATP on their dime.
and...
Originally Posted by calmwinds
That is something he should consider too. Heard Kalitta is cleaning house at Xjet.
With 2000 PIC, he would upgrade for Mesa in IAH after he received two CA recommendations.
With 2000 PIC, he would upgrade for Mesa in IAH after he received two CA recommendations.
I am currently PIC at a 135 outfit flying turbo-prop aircraft that dont require an ATP
hence the reason im looking at regionals to start with; jet time, and an ATP
08-20-2018, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Azorian
I decided against Envoy because i was informed it was a 2 year agreement for the bonus and would be based in either Chicago or LGA. my previous employer had me working in both of those areas routinely, for months at a time and i was trying to work my way south and get away from ORD LGA not stay there on reserve. so Envoy is out
Republic is on my short list, so thats an option
good to know
Im flexible, DFW would be the easier commute, but just barely, based on the website, IAH most junior captain was hired in April 2018, obviously he was a similar case as me and had sufficient prior 121 experience to upgrade quickly. I wouldn't be able to last very long on FO pay so the fast upgrade would be a must.
I have my eye on United long term, but will need an ATP and currently do not have one, I have 121 and 135 experience, and gobs of hours instructing etc
i can go pay for an ATP out of my own pocket, or i can trade a place like mesa / republic a couple of years of my life in exchange for good recent jet experience and an ATP on their dime.
and...
sorry for the confusion, my experience in 121 land is about 2,000 hours SIC time, not PIC
I am currently PIC at a 135 outfit flying turbo-prop aircraft that dont require an ATP
hence the reason im looking at regionals to start with; jet time, and an ATP
Republic is on my short list, so thats an option
good to know
Im flexible, DFW would be the easier commute, but just barely, based on the website, IAH most junior captain was hired in April 2018, obviously he was a similar case as me and had sufficient prior 121 experience to upgrade quickly. I wouldn't be able to last very long on FO pay so the fast upgrade would be a must.
I have my eye on United long term, but will need an ATP and currently do not have one, I have 121 and 135 experience, and gobs of hours instructing etc
i can go pay for an ATP out of my own pocket, or i can trade a place like mesa / republic a couple of years of my life in exchange for good recent jet experience and an ATP on their dime.
and...
sorry for the confusion, my experience in 121 land is about 2,000 hours SIC time, not PIC
I am currently PIC at a 135 outfit flying turbo-prop aircraft that dont require an ATP
hence the reason im looking at regionals to start with; jet time, and an ATP
Good luck in making your decision. Be sure to ask Republic the most junior FO and most junior CA in IAH.
08-20-2018, 08:58 PM
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Calmwinds’ skinny is a good idea of what to expect from these airlines. I’m a Republic guy in IAH. I live in base. The only non-rev travel I do is on the regionals, often on own metal (Republic flights), so I avoid the aggravation of jam packed mainline flights.
Everything is fine and dandy right now, but I’m worried about what I’m going to do when upgrade rolls around. Earliest available upgrade occurs around 2.5 years from DOH. This has been dropping, and hopefully it’ll stabilize at the 2 year mark.
The issue I’ve got is, earliest available upgrade as of right now is in EWR. That place sucks balls. It’s delayed all the time and way too many people everywhere. There’s no way I would commute there from IAH...all the flights are mainline United and every time I deadhead they are fully booked with 15+ on standby. If you’re commuting you won’t get on! LGA isn’t much better; also a junior CA base.
If I wait an additional few months I could hold PIT; that would be ok. I would live in base and pseudo-commute to Texas a couple times a month. But as of right now the time to hold a decent base like MCI or IAH is just going to take too long. I think if I’m going to stick around for the upgrade, I need to see some improvement in IAH.
Everything is fine and dandy right now, but I’m worried about what I’m going to do when upgrade rolls around. Earliest available upgrade occurs around 2.5 years from DOH. This has been dropping, and hopefully it’ll stabilize at the 2 year mark.
The issue I’ve got is, earliest available upgrade as of right now is in EWR. That place sucks balls. It’s delayed all the time and way too many people everywhere. There’s no way I would commute there from IAH...all the flights are mainline United and every time I deadhead they are fully booked with 15+ on standby. If you’re commuting you won’t get on! LGA isn’t much better; also a junior CA base.
If I wait an additional few months I could hold PIT; that would be ok. I would live in base and pseudo-commute to Texas a couple times a month. But as of right now the time to hold a decent base like MCI or IAH is just going to take too long. I think if I’m going to stick around for the upgrade, I need to see some improvement in IAH.
08-21-2018, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10
Calmwinds’ skinny is a good idea of what to expect from these airlines. I’m a Republic guy in IAH. I live in base. The only non-rev travel I do is on the regionals, often on own metal (Republic flights), so I avoid the aggravation of jam packed mainline flights.
Everything is fine and dandy right now, but I’m worried about what I’m going to do when upgrade rolls around. Earliest available upgrade occurs around 2.5 years from DOH. This has been dropping, and hopefully it’ll stabilize at the 2 year mark.
The issue I’ve got is, earliest available upgrade as of right now is in EWR. That place sucks balls. It’s delayed all the time and way too many people everywhere. There’s no way I would commute there from IAH...all the flights are mainline United and every time I deadhead they are fully booked with 15+ on standby. If you’re commuting you won’t get on! LGA isn’t much better; also a junior CA base.
If I wait an additional few months I could hold PIT; that would be ok. I would live in base and pseudo-commute to Texas a couple times a month. But as of right now the time to hold a decent base like MCI or IAH is just going to take too long. I think if I’m going to stick around for the upgrade, I need to see some improvement in IAH.
Everything is fine and dandy right now, but I’m worried about what I’m going to do when upgrade rolls around. Earliest available upgrade occurs around 2.5 years from DOH. This has been dropping, and hopefully it’ll stabilize at the 2 year mark.
The issue I’ve got is, earliest available upgrade as of right now is in EWR. That place sucks balls. It’s delayed all the time and way too many people everywhere. There’s no way I would commute there from IAH...all the flights are mainline United and every time I deadhead they are fully booked with 15+ on standby. If you’re commuting you won’t get on! LGA isn’t much better; also a junior CA base.
If I wait an additional few months I could hold PIT; that would be ok. I would live in base and pseudo-commute to Texas a couple times a month. But as of right now the time to hold a decent base like MCI or IAH is just going to take too long. I think if I’m going to stick around for the upgrade, I need to see some improvement in IAH.
Ask the recruiter for the junior FO and junior CA in DFW. All regionals make you commit to a time period to give you a signing bonus - so don’t let the 2 years wave you off.
08-21-2018, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10
Calmwinds’ skinny is a good idea of what to expect from these airlines. I’m a Republic guy in IAH. I live in base. The only non-rev travel I do is on the regionals, often on own metal (Republic flights), so I avoid the aggravation of jam packed mainline flights.
Everything is fine and dandy right now, but I’m worried about what I’m going to do when upgrade rolls around. Earliest available upgrade occurs around 2.5 years from DOH. This has been dropping, and hopefully it’ll stabilize at the 2 year mark.
The issue I’ve got is, earliest available upgrade as of right now is in EWR. That place sucks balls. It’s delayed all the time and way too many people everywhere. There’s no way I would commute there from IAH...all the flights are mainline United and every time I deadhead they are fully booked with 15+ on standby. If you’re commuting you won’t get on! LGA isn’t much better; also a junior CA base.
If I wait an additional few months I could hold PIT; that would be ok. I would live in base and pseudo-commute to Texas a couple times a month. But as of right now the time to hold a decent base like MCI or IAH is just going to take too long. I think if I’m going to stick around for the upgrade, I need to see some improvement in IAH.
Everything is fine and dandy right now, but I’m worried about what I’m going to do when upgrade rolls around. Earliest available upgrade occurs around 2.5 years from DOH. This has been dropping, and hopefully it’ll stabilize at the 2 year mark.
The issue I’ve got is, earliest available upgrade as of right now is in EWR. That place sucks balls. It’s delayed all the time and way too many people everywhere. There’s no way I would commute there from IAH...all the flights are mainline United and every time I deadhead they are fully booked with 15+ on standby. If you’re commuting you won’t get on! LGA isn’t much better; also a junior CA base.
If I wait an additional few months I could hold PIT; that would be ok. I would live in base and pseudo-commute to Texas a couple times a month. But as of right now the time to hold a decent base like MCI or IAH is just going to take too long. I think if I’m going to stick around for the upgrade, I need to see some improvement in IAH.
08-21-2018, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
All regionals make you commit to a time period to give you a signing bonus - so don’t let the 2 years wave you off.
08-21-2018, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Arliss
Spirit now flies IAH-EWR, that seems to be helping.
I’m not sure how full Spirit flights typically are but I’m willing to bet they’re quite packed. Getting a seat may be easier but it sure won’t be a comfortable one. Disclaimer: I hate riding in the back. Never flown on NK but those that tell me their experiences don’t recommend it.
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