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Old 02-15-2019, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Mesa generally gives the hotel committee one hotel choice. So, if complaints come in, Mesa moves us to another hotel and the hotel committee is again given one hotel choice. If we complain about the second hotel, they switch back to the original hotel.

Pretty pathetic. We all know we work for a cheap company, but our union is fangless despite a contract.
Not necessarily true.

I witnessed going from a great hotel into a dump, back to another great hotel, on numerous occasions.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:30 PM
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"Brody , 05-24-2017 05:49

I recently paid for an A-320 type from Aerostar - and if I had to do it over again, I would have gone somewhere else.


Brody , 05-21-2018 04:37 AM
For those considering Mesa -

FWIW, I've been here for awhile.
I'm only speaking for myself here, but if I had it to do all over again - I would not have chosen Mesa.


Pay: Are you okay with the pilots in the Airbus or Boeing at the gate next to you making at least three times more money than you do?"


Seems like you ain't doing proper research, buddy. Why did you chose Mesa then?

I knew what I was getting into coming here. It has worked for me so far.

By the way, you had a A320 type rating before you joined Mesa, why aren't you flying one?
Why spend all that money and time to then get hired @ Mesa? As far as I know, there aren't any Airbuses on property yet.
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot View Post
Not necessarily true.

I witnessed going from a great hotel into a dump, back to another great hotel, on numerous occasions.
You serve on the hotel committee. If so, enlighten us. We have all witnesses hotel changes, some for the better, some for the worst. Were these the results of the hotel committee? Or, API just happened to find a good hotel when our contract was up?
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
You serve on the hotel committee. If so, enlighten us. We have all witnesses hotel changes, some for the better, some for the worst. Were these the results of the hotel committee? Or, API just happened to find a good hotel when our contract was up?
I don’t know how much is API and how much is MESA.
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Old 02-16-2019, 03:04 AM
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I don’t know how much is API and how much is MESA.
9E uses API. Most of our hotels are pretty good. Some of our hotels are fantastic.
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I don’t know how much is API and how much is MESA.
Volunteer for a short stint on the hotel. You will figure out that the only way we get a nice hotel is if API and that nice hotel just happen to negotiate the lowest price at the time when we are changing hotels. Otherwise, we are in the lowest priced hotel that meets the minimum requirements.

We can change hotels for bed bugs, just to be placed back later.
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver View Post
9E uses API. Most of our hotels are pretty good. Some of our hotels are fantastic.
API operates the way the airline tells them to operate. Union contracts of what is a minimally acceptable hotel also influence how “low” API can go.

Our hotels are better from before our last contract. But, still not the quality of what 9E is probably getting.
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
API operates the way the airline tells them to operate. Union contracts of what is a minimally acceptable hotel also influence how “low” API can go.

Our hotels are better from before our last contract. But, still not the quality of what 9E is probably getting.
Yeah. My point was that if the question is whether bad hotels should be blamed on API or Mesa, then the answer is the blame probably doesn't belong to API.
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:21 AM
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Tell me about your WheelsUP hotels. And where is your point again?

You probably one of those that complain all the time, but stay in some red roof hotel at the airport on your commute. In fact, I see you complain all over the forum.

My point is that hotels are OK for the most part.

If you don't like it, quit. Simple as that.

So the best you can do is go back a few years on this forum, resurrect the previous posts I've made from situations that have nothing to do with you or this thread, and use it to argue your point?

That's pretty weak.

Whether I have an A-320 type or not is irrelevant to whether Mesa puts it's flight crews in dumps.

Whether I did or didn't work Gama Jets is totally irrelevant to this discussion. For some reason, you're going after my credibility. So is that it? If you discredit me, you've somehow 'won' the argument?

Try another tactic - this one isn't gonna work for you.

What I said was that many of the hotels we stay at are so dirty I'm not comfortable putting my toothbrush on the bathroom counter. I've flown out of all the CRJ bases - some are REALLY bad, and some are just bad. Obviously, there are a few exceptions.

This topic is subjective. We all have different tolerance levels when it comes to cleanliness. With that said, I do recall several crews being treated for Legionnaire's Disease from our MEM hotel a little over a year ago. I was one of those who was exposed - and had to be tested. I suppose you'll take the same stand on this hotel as well? That it was 'good enough?' We complained loud and often about how bad this hotel was. It took an exposure to a deadly disease to finally get us out.

FWIW, I lost a childhood friend about ten years ago to Legionnaire's Disease.

Of course, my favorite line of yours - "you're a complainer" and "if you don't like it, just quit" - tell me all I need to know about you.

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At my company, we do a lot of CVG stuff, and we use three different hotels, an IHG, Hyatt, and Hilton property. Often times they ask us which hotel we want to stay in. IHG gives us points we collect, the Hyatt has a nice location, and the Hilton is used sometimes.
If there is ever an issue with a hotel(domestic or international) that makes it hard to get adequate rest, it's a phone call to travel, and it's fixed.
There is a huge difference between a company that is ran by bean counters saving every last .02%, and that of a company that does what it takes to complete the mission and keep customers happy. Part of completing the mission is being good to your employees so they do everything they can to help complete the mission. This is something that Mesa fundamentally will never understand or care to understand.
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