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Old 12-13-2019, 12:53 PM
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Is this real? God I hope not. I really hope you guys know your worth. Regional pay rates to fly 737s good luck with that!
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It's real. At 61 hour guarantee can assume it's not at 900 rates.


737 Cargo Operation Agreement in Principle

Following months of negotiations, your Mesa MEC Negotiating Committee and the Company have come to an Agreement in Principle (AIP) regarding the proposed 737 cargo operation, including pay rates. The MEC met in a Special Meeting Dec. 10 to discuss the AIP and voted to approve the 737 agreement in principle. The Negotiating Committee continues to work with the Company to iron out remaining details. Here are the details we can share for now:



Mesa pilots operating the 737 will have a 61-hour guarantee
Captains will have the ability to bid back into the CRJ/E175 under the current PWA transfer rights after 36-month equipment commitment
Current Mesa FOs will not be permitted to bid as an FO on the first 10 737s; operation of aircraft 11 will give Mesa FOs bidding rights
Terms of this agreement will run concurrent with the Pilot Working Agreement (PWA)
If 737 operations terminate, no Mesa pilot will be displaced or furloughed
The Company commits to meet with ALPA to discuss PWA improvements and extension
Negotiating Committee is to be released at Company expense to discuss TBD items (hotel and transportation language, food and catering, airport crew room, hours of service/scheduling for cargo operations and travel)



Look for more information to come.
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61 hour guarantee is less than Southern...which isn’t a particularly high benchmark.
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That long email and they couldn’t include the pay rates...
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That long email and they couldn’t include the pay rates...
It’s probably too embarrassing
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Signing an agreement with "commitment" to negotiate something. Your guys are either crazy, stupid, or both.
Hughes must still be running the Union
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Classic case. We will pay you 200 bucks an hour. But you will only get 61 hours 😂. You will never break 61 hours due to the nature of the flying, and your bodies will be absolutely trashed after flying all nighters you will not be able to work on X days. So that being said, it’s effectively a pay cut to come off the -900.

And I thought Atlas had problems 😂. Enjoy those all night hub turns boys and girls- I appreciate you taking them, they are awful.
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So newbie question...Do we as a pilot group get to vote on the terms of the contract for the 737? Or will the negotiating committee decide our faith without consultation or opinion from the rest of us.
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So newbie question...Do we as a pilot group get to vote on the terms of the contract for the 737? Or will the negotiating committee decide our faith without consultation or opinion from the rest of us.
It's been voted in by the MEC. If you like/dislike the rates when they come out, PLEASE let your reps know. There will be another pay rate vote if this works out. Can't go past 10 planes without a rate adjustment.
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The Southern and Atlas pilots thank your MEC for making their 4 yr fight for an INDUSTRY STANDARD contract just that much harder and longer now by lowering the bar below all the ACMI carriers and even Southern’s abysmal level in the best pilot market in decades. What’s next, flying those 73’s at CRJ rates? Don’t be a pawn in mgt’s game. Stand up for what you’re worth, not some entry level compensation they want to throw your way.
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