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Old 03-27-2020, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 20sx View Post
This happened before. The pilots at the majors aren't just going to let their flying get farmed out too much. It is an extraordinary terrible time, but I don't believe any regional should or will get a lot more flying during these times.
This HAS happened before. The bubonic plague. The Black Plague.. The Spanish flu.. and you’re right! The Majors did not, in fact, give up their flying. In this case, however, all contractual obligations to the Union are under an emergency situation. Therefore, the company has to do whatever it needs to do to survive in the short term, so that the pilots at United have a plane to fly in the long term.
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:10 PM
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This happened before. The pilots at the majors aren't just going to let their flying get farmed out too much. It is an extraordinary terrible time, but I don't believe any regional should or will get a lot more flying during these times.
But some will..
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Old 03-27-2020, 05:09 PM
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my two cents.. If I were mainline United, I would take that bailout money and pay mainline pilots and FAs to stay home. Not all of them, but as many as necessary. Pay them their minimums. Furlough no one.

THEN, I would take those mostly empty 737s, Airbuses, etc, and replace them with mostly full 175s and CRJs. Turn those big losses into small losses, and maybe even small profits, but better than empty big airplanes.

THEN, I would look at the landscape amongst the Regional partners and ask, “who is best for our business?”Mesa performs extremely well amongst our Regionals, AND they cost the least. Revenues minus expenses equals profits. Mesa equals profits.

Mesa needs to keep flying.
You are going to be shocked what happens
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Old 03-27-2020, 05:26 PM
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You are going to be shocked what happens
I think you will also. I’m at Skywest and completely expect them to furlough up to 40% at a minimum with the crash coming at AA, DL, UA and AS.
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I think you will also. I’m at Skywest and completely expect them to furlough up to 40% at a minimum with the crash coming at AA, DL, UA and AS.

skywest doesn’t furlough.
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skywest doesn’t furlough.

spoken so definitively, what will Skywest do?
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oh geez🤦🏼‍♂️ some of you guys really just hate life, no one can help you change that but yourself. I hope for the best for all of you that have nothing but outrage towards your job. I’ve worked in several different companies throughout my career and see both side, the people who hate it and the people who just love being there. So funny how being polite and protecting my “home” makes me a recruiter😂 this is your job, this is your company, take pride in it and if you don’t like it then leave, I’m sure, I am 100000% sure it ain’t greener on the other side and you’ll be just as upset and outraged as you are here cause you don’t look at the little things and appreciate them. And this goes for all you guys raging on this forum, not just you Cessna182 guy
Bro, you joined APC three days ago and you’re coming on this strong. Who are you even?

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10 hours pay vs 55? That is WAY less of 50% that we normally get paid, isn't it?
That’s exactly right. Delta 2-year 737 FO at $141 an hour, 55 hours a month, earns $7,755. A 2-year Mesa FO, at $38 an hour and 10 hours a month, earns $380. That’s just a 2041% difference, no biggy.

Getting less than 1/20th of what another professional aviator gets goes well beyond the typical regional vs. mainline comparison. Anyone who supports it deserves what they get, except they’re dragging down the Mesa people trying to better the company and the industry at large.

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Originally Posted by deltajuliet View Post
Bro, you joined APC three days ago and you’re coming on this strong. Who are you even?



That’s exactly right. Delta 2-year 737 FO at $141 an hour, 55 hours a month, earns $7,755. A 2-year Mesa FO, at $38 an hour and 10 hours a month, earns $380. That’s just a 2041% difference, no biggy.

Getting less than 1/20th of what another professional aviator gets goes well beyond the typical regional vs. mainline comparison. Anyone who supports it deserves what they get, except they’re dragging down the Mesa people trying to better the company and the industry at large.


watch closely your MEC Chair.
only one MEC Chairman of yours had the balls to tell your management go pound sand and the last person turn the lights off when they asked last time for pay cuts

only one to my knowledge
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Originally Posted by fastneat View Post
This HAS happened before. The bubonic plague. The Black Plague.. The Spanish flu.. and you’re right! The Majors did not, in fact, give up their flying.
Umm....

There was no airline industry during the Bubonic Plague which was the exact same event as the Black Plague. That took place in the 1300’s, and powered flight had only been around for 15 years when the Spanish Flue Pandemic occurred.


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Old 03-28-2020, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve View Post
Umm....

There was no airline industry during the Bubonic Plague which was the exact same event as the Black Plague. That took place in the 1300’s, and powered flight had only been around for 15 years when the Spanish Flue Pandemic occurred.


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