Reserve conundrum in IAH.
04-06-2020, 07:27 AM
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Reserve conundrum in IAH.
So after having a line for a couple of months as an FO in IAH, I’m now back on reserve. I commute from Louisiana.
So that means spending 19 days a month in a crash pad with 20 or more other guys from all over the country. That doesn’t sound very safe to me. No way to maintain “social distancing” in those conditions. It’s damn near asking to get the virus. Then I’m out for at least 2 weeks.
I can drive to IAH in less than 4 hours. Why can’t I be assigned long call reserve instead of 2 hour short call to avoid being exposed to those conditions in a crash pad?
ExpressJet assigned all commuters long call reserve and pilots that live in the Houston area short call reserve. Sounds like a great solution.
Why can’t we do this?
So that means spending 19 days a month in a crash pad with 20 or more other guys from all over the country. That doesn’t sound very safe to me. No way to maintain “social distancing” in those conditions. It’s damn near asking to get the virus. Then I’m out for at least 2 weeks.
I can drive to IAH in less than 4 hours. Why can’t I be assigned long call reserve instead of 2 hour short call to avoid being exposed to those conditions in a crash pad?
ExpressJet assigned all commuters long call reserve and pilots that live in the Houston area short call reserve. Sounds like a great solution.
Why can’t we do this?
04-06-2020, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
So after having a line for a couple of months as an FO in IAH, I’m now back on reserve. I commute from Louisiana.
So that means spending 19 days a month in a crash pad with 20 or more other guys from all over the country. That doesn’t sound very safe to me. No way to maintain “social distancing” in those conditions. It’s damn near asking to get the virus. Then I’m out for at least 2 weeks.
I can drive to IAH in less than 4 hours. Why can’t I be assigned long call reserve instead of 2 hour short call to avoid being exposed to those conditions in a crash pad?
ExpressJet assigned all commuters long call reserve and pilots that live in the Houston area short call reserve. Sounds like a great solution.
Why can’t we do this?
So that means spending 19 days a month in a crash pad with 20 or more other guys from all over the country. That doesn’t sound very safe to me. No way to maintain “social distancing” in those conditions. It’s damn near asking to get the virus. Then I’m out for at least 2 weeks.
I can drive to IAH in less than 4 hours. Why can’t I be assigned long call reserve instead of 2 hour short call to avoid being exposed to those conditions in a crash pad?
ExpressJet assigned all commuters long call reserve and pilots that live in the Houston area short call reserve. Sounds like a great solution.
Why can’t we do this?
Per contract they’re only required to have 17% of the reserves that month to be on long call, so you don’t have the seniority for it maybe? Unfortunate situation and like I’ve been telling friends the only bad part about this entire situation is with the reserve guys cause they won’t be used as much and that brings up alllll sorts of unfavorable situations. I get where you’re coming from though, it’d be nice to have it that way but doesn’t seem doable
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04-06-2020, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jleep75
Per contract they’re only required to have 17% of the reserves that month to be on long call, so you don’t have the seniority for it maybe? Unfortunate situation and like I’ve been telling friends the only bad part about this entire situation is with the reserve guys cause they won’t be used as much and that brings up alllll sorts of unfavorable situations. I get where you’re coming from though, it’d be nice to have it that way but doesn’t seem doable
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Stop the BS. per the contract min guarantee is 76hrs, you folded like a wet noodle on that. What did you get for us in return, nothing. Bupkis.
04-06-2020, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jleep75
Per contract they’re only required to have 17% of the reserves that month to be on long call, so you don’t have the seniority for it maybe? Unfortunate situation and like I’ve been telling friends the only bad part about this entire situation is with the reserve guys cause they won’t be used as much and that brings up alllll sorts of unfavorable situations. I get where you’re coming from though, it’d be nice to have it that way but doesn’t seem doable
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Why don’t you think it’s doable? Not enough Houston area reserve pilots to cover short call?
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04-06-2020, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
So after having a line for a couple of months as an FO in IAH, I’m now back on reserve. I commute from Louisiana.
So that means spending 19 days a month in a crash pad with 20 or more other guys from all over the country. That doesn’t sound very safe to me. No way to maintain “social distancing” in those conditions. It’s damn near asking to get the virus. Then I’m out for at least 2 weeks.
I can drive to IAH in less than 4 hours. Why can’t I be assigned long call reserve instead of 2 hour short call to avoid being exposed to those conditions in a crash pad?
ExpressJet assigned all commuters long call reserve and pilots that live in the Houston area short call reserve. Sounds like a great solution.
Why can’t we do this?
So that means spending 19 days a month in a crash pad with 20 or more other guys from all over the country. That doesn’t sound very safe to me. No way to maintain “social distancing” in those conditions. It’s damn near asking to get the virus. Then I’m out for at least 2 weeks.
I can drive to IAH in less than 4 hours. Why can’t I be assigned long call reserve instead of 2 hour short call to avoid being exposed to those conditions in a crash pad?
ExpressJet assigned all commuters long call reserve and pilots that live in the Houston area short call reserve. Sounds like a great solution.
Why can’t we do this?
04-06-2020, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
Too bad you didn’t choose Xjet, instead you went to Mesa. You will see your management teams true colors
I'm fine with Mesa, just hope we can solve this issue.
04-06-2020, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
Too bad you didn’t choose Xjet, instead you went to Mesa. You will see your management teams true colors
04-06-2020, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
Despite this particular situation, there’s no way I’d rather be at ExpressJet.
I'm fine with Mesa, just hope we can solve this issue.
I'm fine with Mesa, just hope we can solve this issue.
04-06-2020, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Uffda
Stop the BS. per the contract min guarantee is 76hrs, you folded like a wet noodle on that. What did you get for us in return, nothing. Bupkis.
So are you upset that the company is still afloat and you’re still being paid by Mesa when a lot of the fat has been trimmed in many other departments?
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