pangolin

I’ve gotten the silent treatment as well.

Varsity

With concessions the 20 year old is still on the street. End of story.

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ninerdriver

This.

UA was fishing EV for concessions even as they were signing the docs to shut the place down. Don't fall for it.

Swakid8

I am sorry, but this lame here.... There are jobs out there to be had in and out of Aviation. One might have to learn a skill set to obtain that job. That is something that 20 year guy should have been doing for the last 6 months and positioning him and his family in the event that he faces furlough.

Not trying to sound harsh, but it’s been no secret that this industry sees its ups and downs and this why folks have spent years in this industry have been preaching have additional skill set to fall back.

YVslave

terks43, not a fatcat on top. The company gives us the least amount of compensation in the industry for the airplanes we fly. So you want to take even less. Omg!

terks43

Again, you aren’t grasping reality here. The pilot groups had the power up until March. Now to be perfectly frank every single pilot group in the industry has lost all of its leverage. I’m looking out for keeping jobs right now, contract advancements are completely out of the window for the time being. In 5ish years time the pilot groups will have the power again, but until then you better get the lube ready and be glad you aren’t one of the 10K on the street with no hiring anywhere, 91, 91K, 135, 121, hell even CFI jobs are going to be damn near impossible to come across, there is going to be almost literally no openings and whatever few openings are there will have competition unlike anything you have ever seen. So take a step back and you tell your new hire FO setting next to you what kind of life he or she is going to have for the next 5 years. I’m assuming you are a capt like me, look out for the little guy during this time. Not just yourself. This half decade is not going to be easy, the gravy train has run out of fuel, and the coal ain’t being delivered anytime soon. You call them brothers and sisters, now act like it. I’m fully at the point now where I believe in terms of total economy hit this is going to be a depression. Small business is completely decimated, Main Street isn’t coming back, from there it’s just going to trickle up the food chair with larger and larger companies and industries going belly up. Strap in this is going to be in history books alongside the Great Depression someday.

Seneca Pilot

You are the one who doesn't seem to understand. There are literally dozens of times in the history where pilots have "worked with management on concessions to save jobs" and in every case the jobs were still lost and the concessions lasted for a decade or more. Concessions will not save jobs.

mjpilot

Terks43, do you have a line as a Captain? If so, have you dropped trips to have open time for reserve dudes to fly, so there IS A NEED for reserve pilots?

What are one or two 4 day trips in your paycheck, missing at the end of the month? 17 or 34ish hours less when you can help out a brother or sister on reserve? Yes, right now, they're being paid min guarantee, yet if reserves are flying, it shows the company that they are needed, therefore less Furloughs into the future.

Go right ahead and lead by example!
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fastneat

Another reason for the delay in formal WARN notices might be because Mesa is waiting to see if there will be further government money to
continue to cover our pay for a few more months.

Just sayin’...