Mesa issues warn notice to pilots
08-09-2020, 06:58 PM
#141
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Can you imagine? The pandemic will be way over by the time we get them if they’re sending them out snail mail. The poor dispatch and soc ppl are probably stuffing and licking envelopes and stamps while doing their normal jobs. Maybe they should just ACARS it. 😂🤣😂
08-10-2020, 07:10 AM
#142
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Originally Posted by terks43
Spoken like the fat cat on top, not the early 20 year old with a young family facing the soon to be reality that they may be kicked to the street with literally no one hiring for their skill set. Not even McDonalds. If you want reality buddy this is it, there is no jobs to be had. It’s this or nothing. The entire country is in the worst economic situation that it’s been in for nearly 100 years and it ain’t recovering next year when the vaccine comes back. 5+ years until recovery, minimum.
Concessions have been proven NOT to save jobs anyways, you are going to lower the standard, make even less money, and then wind up on the street anyways. When its time to come back, you’ll come back to a worse job and you’ll spend years trying to get it back to where it was in the first place.
08-10-2020, 08:36 AM
#143
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Position: CRJ F/O
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Originally Posted by FLYGUYRY
If you would make almost the same or more on unemployment why would you risk screwing yourself and other generations for a decade or more for short term gain (is it even really gain?). Genuinely curious, this mentality makes no sense to me.
Concessions have been proven NOT to save jobs anyways, you are going to lower the standard, make even less money, and then wind up on the street anyways. When its time to come back, you’ll come back to a worse job and you’ll spend years trying to get it back to where it was in the first place.
Concessions have been proven NOT to save jobs anyways, you are going to lower the standard, make even less money, and then wind up on the street anyways. When its time to come back, you’ll come back to a worse job and you’ll spend years trying to get it back to where it was in the first place.
Things haven’t even gotten horribly bad yet and there are apparently a lot of pilots ready to give concessions. Unbelievable.
Read “Flying the Line”, the new guys need to learn a little history about the industry they have chosen to work in. I think it’s free on the ALPA web site. The more things change, the more they stay the same. A book called “Hard Landing” is a really good read as well.
08-10-2020, 12:57 PM
#144
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Posts: 504
Originally Posted by airspeedsalive
Yep....no concessions, reduced guarantee, nothing. This company was trying to buy Flybe in the UK, and has mentioned other possibilities in Europe - money at the corporate level is apparently not an issue. Not yet anyway.
Things haven’t even gotten horribly bad yet and there are apparently a lot of pilots ready to give concessions. Unbelievable.
Read “Flying the Line”, the new guys need to learn a little history about the industry they have chosen to work in. I think it’s free on the ALPA web site. The more things change, the more they stay the same. A book called “Hard Landing” is a really good read as well.
Things haven’t even gotten horribly bad yet and there are apparently a lot of pilots ready to give concessions. Unbelievable.
Read “Flying the Line”, the new guys need to learn a little history about the industry they have chosen to work in. I think it’s free on the ALPA web site. The more things change, the more they stay the same. A book called “Hard Landing” is a really good read as well.
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08-10-2020, 03:40 PM
#145
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Posts: 195
Originally Posted by normalperson
Can you imagine? The pandemic will be way over by the time we get them if they’re sending them out snail mail. The poor dispatch and soc ppl are probably stuffing and licking envelopes and stamps while doing their normal jobs. Maybe they should just ACARS it. 😂🤣😂
08-10-2020, 03:42 PM
#146
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Posts: 494
Well a member of recruiting had a video meeting today with ATP and said they are actively reviewing application BUT all applicants must have a ATP unless previously or are current cadets. So I would think with the new partnership furloughs are off the table.
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08-10-2020, 03:45 PM
#147
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Originally Posted by jcool734
Well a member of recruiting had a video meeting today with ATP and said they are actively reviewing application BUT all applicants must have a ATP unless previously or are current cadets. So I would think with the new partnership furloughs are off the table.
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