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11-18-2020, 03:16 PM

#21

ghostrider717

On Reserve

Joined APC: Apr 2013

Posts: 20

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Originally Posted by backtoregionals

Yep. These idiots who voted yes fell right into management’s trap, and pulled the rest of the pilot group with them. We have 10 new EJETs online and started up a 737 operation, but hey we needed to take a pay cut to save the company! Common sense is non-existent in 58% of this pilot group.

You can thank all those junior captains who didn't want to take the downgrade for that. They rather screw the pilot group as a whole than take the downgrade.

11-18-2020, 03:52 PM

#22

mjpilot

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Joined APC: Sep 2006

Posts: 504

Quote:

Originally Posted by coodrough568

exactly. Plus it’s not crazy at all, most used to credit 120+

I'm @ 109+ credit so far, that's without the vacation buy back hours.

11-18-2020, 04:04 PM

#23

kevin18

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Joined APC: Jun 2018

Posts: 446

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjpilot

I'm @ 109+ credit so far, that's without the vacation buy back hours.

Would you take open time with people on furlough?

11-18-2020, 04:20 PM

#24

pangolin

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Joined APC: Jul 2017

Position: CRJ9 CA

Posts: 4,083

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Originally Posted by OnFingers12345

That’s crazy. Meanwhile, a lot of us are making min guarantee. Wtf?

AA vs UA and the fact that the windows are set freaking high to generate enough reserves to cover covid outages. Only the most sr get those high lines because there are only so many trips that can make high credit lines - then the rest are junk we all get for low credit.

MJPilot - I haven't broken min since the MOU.

11-18-2020, 04:24 PM

#25

pangolin

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Joined APC: Jul 2017

Position: CRJ9 CA

Posts: 4,083

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin18

Would you take open time with people on furlough?

He's not doing a damn thing wrong (MJPilot). Right now with the MOU we avoided all but training furloughs so he's morally free to grab as much cash as he can hold. Now if we had line pilots on furlough that's something else entirely.

11-18-2020, 04:26 PM

#26

mjpilot

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Joined APC: Sep 2006

Posts: 504

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin18

Would you take open time with people on furlough?

What kind of a stupid ass question is that?!?

Would you take credit hours away from fellow pilots just so you can stay employed, for your own benefit?

11-18-2020, 05:15 PM

#27

Uffda

Line Holder

Joined APC: Jul 2017

Posts: 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin18

Would you take open time with people on furlough?

Of course he would, why wouldn’t he? As far as I am aware there is nothing in the contract that prevents that.

11-18-2020, 05:57 PM

#28

OnFingers12345

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Joined APC: Aug 2019

Posts: 195

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjpilot

You guys voted it in, deal with it!

You took my hours away, I'm simply putting them back in.

Not me. I’m just a guy near the bottom of the list, unfortunately.

11-18-2020, 06:26 PM

#29

Avgeek7248

What's a weekend?

Joined APC: Dec 2017

Position: Widget FO

Posts: 457

Both ways you vote are selfish. If you voted yes you screwed guys who needed those extra hours to get by. If you voted no you screwed the junior guys and allow downgrades and furloughs. There's two sides to every coin and I don't see much point in arguing and blaming each other for the point we've all reached in our career's. In the end the vote was supposed to create tension and split the pilot group. It succeeded.