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Old 06-27-2022 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Not really true. I have friends that went to American, United, Southwest and an ABX. Don’t know a breeze yet..
Breeze has a lot of Mesa and Skywest pilots.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GoFaster
There must be something in the water or some serious Stockholm syndrome in this place. I’m just baffled. I mean it was bad before the AAWO rates came out. Really bad. But now? I’m just baffled.
Places like Mesa have created a bottom feeder mentality so they realize no matter how much they raise pay, people will leave. They’ve probably created a pilot group that has skeletons in the closet and can’t leave to other airlines, like someone on this thread actually admitted, and for the rest they promise big RJs and lots of flying, what low timers want right now. It would be interesting if they vote this in because the rates look horrible, a 175/CRJ900 CA should be starting least 100k during these times. They’d probably want to keep their FOs from jumping ship after 4 months too.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by shortspatula
Places like Mesa have created a bottom feeder mentality so they realize no matter how much they raise pay, people will leave. They’ve probably created a pilot group that has skeletons in the closet and can’t leave to other airlines, like someone on this thread actually admitted, and for the rest they promise big RJs and lots of flying, what low timers want right now. It would be interesting if they vote this in because the rates look horrible, a 175/CRJ900 CA should be starting least 100k during these times. They’d probably want to keep their FOs from jumping ship after 4 months too.
I don’t have skeletons. I can go. But WHERE do I want to start over at the bottom of a list with the time I have left? Money isn’t everything. It’s something. QOL. Schedule etc. I’ve done my reserve time. No desire to commute to reserve. I could do the near direct entry ca an envoy easy enough. But I don’t want to. If I’m going to start at the bottom it won’t be a lateral move.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlag q
If you plan to leave but have the opportunity to vote. Vote in the best interest of the pilot group.
What pilot group? There’s about 400 eligible voters. 350.. wait down to 300.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
I don’t have skeletons. I can go. But WHERE do I want to start over at the bottom of a list with the time I have left? Money isn’t everything. It’s something. QOL. Schedule etc. I’ve done my reserve time. No desire to commute to reserve. I could do the near direct entry ca an envoy easy enough. But I don’t want to. If I’m going to start at the bottom it won’t be a lateral move.
Your circumstances are unique though. I’m not saying I don’t get why you would say yes. But for probably about 90% of the pilot group, a yes vote is an insane choice. Pretty sure it doesn’t matter at this point. Mesa is bleeding out too fast now.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
What pilot group? There’s about 400 eligible voters. 350.. wait down to 300.
No way!? Did you get ahold of the UPDATED seniority list?
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Old 06-27-2022 | 10:56 AM
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Exactly vote yes so you can make a few extra dollars while you ferry the planes to the desert in last few weeks of bleeding. Don’t step over your last shekel waiting for a dollar.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
More and more pilots I talk to hear are coming to there senses and voting yes. Pangolin said it best when he says that a no vote will take years to make it back to the amoun t of money we would have gotten by just voting yes. It’s just not worth a no vote to come back for a $2 raise a year from now. The money offered is outstanding considering what our previous contracts given were. And we are not a bottom feeder. We have some of the most absolute professionals here at MESA
Nice try coughdrop. The company knows it won’t be here if they come back with $2 more. The only answer is a resounding NO.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
More and more pilots I talk to hear are coming to there senses and voting yes. Pangolin said it best when he says that a no vote will take years to make it back to the amoun t of money we would have gotten by just voting yes. It’s just not worth a no vote to come back for a $2 raise a year from now. The money offered is outstanding considering what our previous contracts given were. And we are not a bottom feeder. We have some of the most absolute professionals here at MESA
Seeing his usage of "hear" and "there" makes me understand Coughdrop a little better now.
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Old 06-27-2022 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
Well you all aren’t thinking about this logically. If commuterair is getting our 175s already then we need to accept what was given to us and not wreck this company further by trying to be greedy. If United owns almost all of our aircrafts then we need to tip toe the line carefully. And after thinking of it logically you will realize that the pay improvement is actually good. We are making more money to do the same job. I’m not sure why you think that is not good enough. Thankfully as I said before most pilots I talk to here are voting YES. MESA fortunately hires pilots who just love to fly and for whatever reason can’t go to another airline. Be considerate as we are all family here. The pay is good!

You haven’t talked to most pilots. We don’t need to
tip-toe. If the contract is voted down the company will need to come back to the table rather quickly. The pay is good if this contract was based in 2019, 2022 not so much.
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