Originally Posted by EJETflyer (Post 3827963)

Is it true Mesa is looking to start up a contract again with Delta. Anyone heard of?

Originally Posted by SpeedyT (Post 3828940)

Don't know if true or not, but heard the feds have gotten complaints of certain APDs and came down on them stripping their title away?

Originally Posted by GimmieDaLoot (Post 3828863)

Yeah for example in Mesa ejet training they push P/B/D hard, and I've heard some even failed checks because they didn't know how to do it. In my 10 YEARS of 121 flying... Never on the line did I ever get asked by atc to do a p/b/d... And if they did, I'd just simply ask for a heading/vector. Let that sink in.... In 10 years of 121 flying I never even got asked once by atc to do a P/B/D nor did my buddy at united who's been flying the line for 15+ years.

Not that pbd is difficult by any means, but just shows what time is wasted in training doing something totally unnessesary and you won't ever have to do in real life, when that time can be better spent doing something actually worthwhile like v1 cuts, etc.

Originally Posted by GimmieDaLoot (Post 3828863)

Yeah for example in Mesa ejet training they push P/B/D hard, and I've heard some even failed checks because they didn't know how to do it. In my 10 YEARS of 121 flying... Never on the line did I ever get asked by atc to do a p/b/d... And if they did, I'd just simply ask for a heading/vector. Let that sink in.... In 10 years of 121 flying I never even got asked once by atc to do a P/B/D nor did my buddy at united who's been flying the line for 15+ years.

Not that pbd is difficult by any means, but just shows what time is wasted in training doing something totally unnessesary and you won't ever have to do in real life, when that time can be better spent doing something actually worthwhile like v1 cuts, etc.

Originally Posted by GimmieDaLoot (Post 3828863)

Never on the line did I ever get asked by atc to do a p/b/d

Originally Posted by ProFlapOperator (Post 3830721)

I was just asked to do one on the last trip I did. Also pretty helpful when going into airports without an arrival procedure. Simply draw a 30 mile ring, set 10K above field, makes for an easy descent into these airports. Use it quite often into places like MAF. As previously mentioned these are rare clearances, and more often than not CTR/APP just vectors you down.

Originally Posted by Point85ToTheFix (Post 3838907)

Any good stories or rumors out there? Don't care if true or not this place is always the best for the bleeding edge of "news" and general hilarity✈😂

Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3839182)

I was on a YX jumpseat last month and the CA said they are buying Mesa in October after they settle some lawsuit they’re dealing with. You asked for rumors. There’s a rumor.

Originally Posted by Point85ToTheFix (Post 3838907)

Any good stories or rumors out there? Don't care if true or not this place is always the best for the bleeding edge of "news" and general hilarity✈😂

Originally Posted by EJETflyer (Post 3839373)

Newest rumor floating around is that JO is extremely sick, like hospital bound/new CEO kinda sick.

Other rumors; the aviate purge of August caused negotiations for a real contractual, seniority based, no bs fine print flow for Mesa guys to UA, like what endeavor has for delta or what AAWOs have for AA. Many people realized aviate is not a real flow and has too much BS attached to it. But since Mesa isn't owned by UA I don't know if this is true or possible. Endeavor is owned by delta, and AAWOs owned by AA

Originally Posted by trip (Post 3839441)

in Mesa ejet training they push P/B/D hard, What's P/B/D? Asking for a friend.

Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3839438)

Flow Mesa guys to UA. In your wildest dreams. The pilot group would never allow that to happen.

Originally Posted by EJETflyer (Post 3839456)

Place, bearing, distance

"Fly to XYZ vor, outbound/inbound on the 100 radial, 10 mile fix. There are multiple other ways to do this as well such as cross radials from two VORs and the list goes on

Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 3839474)

Correct, the UA pilots would never allow it a flow. There’s no benefit for them and there’s no shortage of applicants

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3843878)

as long as the minimums remain low there's no shortage of applicants.... go back to bachelors and 1000 TPIC with 4000 TT and watch what happens.
people who say there's no shortage are fooling themselves. It is catching up, but mostly due to the Boeing, Airbus and Pratt issues which are temporarily slowing growth. There are still 3,000 retirements at the big three in 2025 not including early outs.

Originally Posted by SpeedyT (Post 3843832)

is the Crystal Palace going away to someone else?

Originally Posted by cornerpocket (Post 3844441)

i believe he was referencing 'no shortage of applicants' at UAL.

Originally Posted by SpeedyT (Post 3858788)

Welp PHX is closing and everyone getting displaced. Training center be moving too sim center and closing.

Originally Posted by SpeedyT (Post 3858788)

Welp PHX is closing and everyone getting displaced. Training center be moving too sim center and closing.

Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3858929)

This was a given when mesa and AA ended their partnership. Anyone who thought PHX would stick around was delusional.

Originally Posted by Want (Post 3861509)

Anyone who thinks SDF is still sticking around is delusional as well. It's the next to go.

Originally Posted by Want (Post 3863487)

So let me get this straight.. Mesa uses Unitedhealthcare for thier medical benifets. The same company whos CEO got killed because he let a bunch of people die because he supported his companies right to high an extrmely high denial rate. United healthcare is a scam of a company, who feast and make money off of denying claims and putting peoples lives in danger by NOT proving the care they need.

"UnitedHealthcare denies claims at nearly double the industry average, rejecting about one-third of claims. It faces lawsuits and criticism for using AI algorithms with high error rates to automate denials."

Lets not start o thier multiple lawsuits over thier fraud, including one where the defrauded the US government out of billions of dollars.

Mesa MEC should really look into CHANGING medical providers and going one that dosnt scam its clients and is immoral.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeaut...ates/#lightbox

Originally Posted by EJETflyer (Post 3876804)

Word of caution for those going into the ejet from crj or off the street. Mesa ejet training is one of, if not, one of the worst training departments I've encountered at an airline. Possibly on par with PSA crj training. Leave to another airline while you can, be a DEC at gojet and Ge the bonus, or literally anywhere else. Or stay on crj until they get thier sh1t together. I's sloppy, all over the place, and not standard at all. Mesa CRJ training was leagues ahead of the EJET training. They require you to learn unnecessary and over the top numbers/info. Systems class is a joke and consists of 2 days of running through slides then a test that has questions where you never saw anywhere in your life, and questions that don't make sense. Checkrides are being done by over the top examiners who brag about failing people. One of them is notorious for this. Orals are unessesarily difficult and 3+ hours long. Instead of it being like a conversation format, this is like you playing who wants to be a millionare. Everyone gets different checkrides and it's never the same.

Mesa is in dire need of AQP training for the ejet. Trust me, stay on the crj while you can. Or go to any other airline than to deal with this 2 months of hell called Mesa ejet training.

Originally Posted by Werjower (Post 3829866)

It's probably not something they should be pushing hard but ATC, albeit rare, does sometimes still issue those clearances.

I find myself using it too for small Deltas with no arrivals or late night arrivals when cleared direct destination, like said above.

Originally Posted by flyer138 (Post 3879864)

Was asked twice today about the "Republic thing."

Can anyone enlighten me?

TIA
F138-

Originally Posted by Want (Post 3880313)

Mesa and Republic to supposedly merge

Originally Posted by Want (Post 3880313)

Mesa and Republic to supposedly merge

Originally Posted by cornerpocket (Post 3880700)

What would Republic be buying aside from an operating certificate? Don't they have two extra operating certificates gathering dust right now?