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CrippleHawk

11-07-2009 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 707849)

I dont think anything is official yet. The extension was not granted for those aircraft but that just means that United felt that they could renegotiate better rates and a better contract. There has been a bidding war going on between xjt, tsa, skywest, and mesa for this contract. Your contract wasn't renewed but there could still be a "new" mesa contract with cheaper rates but with the same old airplanes. Same thing could very well go for the Dash's as well.
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you never know. The ASA 13 aircraft thing and the TSA recalls are not good signs for mesa to continue this flying.

It's official

newarkblows

11-07-2009 07:55 AM

I dont think you quite understand my post. Sure it is official that mesa's current contract was not renewed but United could very well just sign a brand new contract with mesa starting May 1, 2010 with the same aircraft. There is nothing stopping them from doing so.

winglet

11-07-2009 07:57 AM

Mesa Air Group Fleet

Mesa Airlines Certificate Fleet (DBA; GO!, MESA AIRLINES, UNITED EXPRESS, US AIRWAYS EXPRESS)

38 CL-600-2D24
20 CL-600-2C10 (10 on Option)
46 CL-600-2B19
16 DHC-8-202

Freedom Airlines Certificate Fleet (DBA; DELTA CONNECTION)

34 EMB-145LR

Clocks

11-07-2009 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 708027)

You are correct, that could happen.

andy171773

11-07-2009 09:07 AM

But it's highly doubtful that United will.

rickair7777

11-07-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 708062)

But it's highly doubtful that United will.

Mesa mgt. has already acknowledged that it's not going to happen.

The Duke

11-07-2009 12:02 PM

We have to get out of the 50 seat CRJ 200 market. It's a waste and there's no sense prolonging the pain. We'll have to figure out a way to get out of all of this intact, that is the challenge right now. If we do, we'll be in good shape.

Again, look at the numbers: 56 CRJ 200s @ Mesa, 250 CRJ 200s @ SkyWest.

It's going to suck for just about anyone who has a sizeable number of CRJ 200s right now. One can either deal with that problem head-on, or you can move it to the back-burner to deal with later. In a way, United did us a favor.

CRJ1000

11-07-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 708142)

Again, look at the numbers: 56 CRJ 200s @ Mesa, 250 CRJ 200s @ SkyWest.

I agree with many of the things you are saying about the CRJ 50 seats not being a good thing. Should you also include TSA, ExpressJet, Air Wisconson, etc. also?
It will be interesting to see how all this turn out.

Truman_Sparks

11-07-2009 12:33 PM

Majors' scope precludes almost any future growth in the 70/90 market, even as 1 for 1 replacements for 50's. Therefore, the Regionals will continue to fly 50 seaters as a staple of feed into the future. American is the only one I can think of recently that is allowing more 70 seaters. Not sure what United's cap is, but I believe Delta is at the limit and I don't think Continental allows any 70 seaters. So, are we saying that if 200's need to, or are going to, disappear, then who or what will feed the hubs?

hslightnin

11-07-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 708142)

In a way, United did us a favor.

I gota disagree with that from the pilots point of view, you sound like management. If they renewed it I would not be out of a job next year. If they would have replaced them with 700's i would not be out of a job.

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