Nevets

This is what Skywest wanted to do with XJT, get their foot in the door with CAL. The difference is that USAirways is no CAL. If this does happen, I doubt they will be as nice to the MAG pilots as they were to the XJT pilots.

It could be a good thing but I highly doubt SKW management will structure it in a way in which it would be, judging from past practice.

A third airline to put on their holding company.

Lets hope USAPA can win this battle.

Like vultures?

I wouldn't exclude anything from the realm of possibility. I certainly think the pilots would fare as well as can be considering the circumstances. For example, when DAL filed suit to get out of the Freedom flying, XJT was currently doing DAL flying out of LAX and with the slight possibility that XJT might end up with some of that Freedom flying, some MEC members were already on board with giving those MAG pilots seniority and longevity on the XJT seniority list while doing that flying.

They'll buy their assets and that's about it unfortunately for the pilots. Like Tony said, you may get preferential interviews...probably after the UAL and ASA furloughs and the SKW pool pilots.

Boomer

From what I've heard, Delta dragged Comair into shamkruptcy so the creditors couldn't confiscate (the still profitable) Comair as payment.

If go! isn't included in bankruptcy protection, then it isn't protected from seizure by creditors.

If JO wanted to keep go! as a part of MAG, he should have included it in the Ch11 filing.

I fly planes for a living so I could be very wrong about this.

TonyWilliams

No, this won't be a third airline.... it will be a purchase of assets. Whatever flying done for UAL, USA, or DAL, if any, will be through SkW.

There won't be any parts to identify as Mesa, any more than there are parts of Sun Aire that SkW bought many moons ago.

SkW, I believe, did get approval for a two week training course to make Mesa pilots who are previously rated on same equipment to be SkW pilots.

The turn around can be very, very fast. Might take longer to paint the planes.

TonyWilliams

Maybe in JO's dreams.... the bankruptcy court will tell Mesa what is "included".

TonyWilliams

Huh? BK starts the moment an entity files its petition with the court.

MESA IS BANKRUPT.

Whether they are reorganized or liquidated is now up to a court, not JO.

Nevets

Yeah, I wasn't sure if a separate certificate was required because of scope issues.

But why Skywest and not ASA?

TonyWilliams

There may be some advantage with scope... I have no idea. But I very seriously doubt that Mesa brand will be on anything SkW does. Even if there was some small advantage in one or more areas.

As to SkW vs ASA, I'm referring to SkW, Inc. I have no idea if there are plans to grow the ASA brand, or not.

EDIT: SkW Airlines has the reduced training agreement, not ASA. So, that part of my discussion was about OO.

Purpleanga

3rd UPDATE: Mesa Air Files For Bankruptcy, Plans To Cut Jets

Looks like everything is peachy in PHX, they plan on getting out of BK within a few months. Again why is no one mentioning the fact that the majors have the option to get rid of Mesa? I guess they think it won't happen? And they keep saying Mesa is owed 70 million from DAL. Strange.

Nevets

Having a third airline under the holding company doesn't mean having aircraft with the Mesa brand.

And yeah, I figured that Skywest Airlines got this training approval from the FAA and was hoping for an explanation as to why it wasn't ASA instead?

Oskeewowow

Maybe I've missed it, but what about Delta scope? 76 seats last time I checked. I might be wrong, but aren't the Mesa CRJ900s at 86 seats? How could Skywest or any other Delta Connection carrier fly those airplanes without jeopardizing their codeshare?