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andy171773 01-05-2010 07:10 AM

My thoughts go out to the Mesa Employees.

Let us all hope, that every single block hour and CRJ900 gets absorbed into mainline flying.

Let's hope this doesn't get pushed around to other regionals..giving all us furloughed pilots our crappy jobs back.

PSACFI 01-05-2010 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 738153)
Skywest... Easily! But the question comes down will USAPA sit and allow CRJ900's to be given away yet again and violate the current contract with the number of large RJ's....

Well in that case I hope some or all the -900s go to US mainline. Wishful thinking I know. :D

Back to reality now, how many -900s are in violation of the USAPA contract?

What about the UA side of things?

Trip7 01-05-2010 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Theonemarine (Post 738147)
I think AWAC is the only operator that could afford the -900's

Don't forget Skywest Inc. They have been watching this flying for over a year and have PLENTY of money. CLT 900s to ASA, PHX 900s to Skywest

deadstick35 01-05-2010 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 738159)
Aren't they already in violation?


I think that is exactly what he is saying.

USAPA has already made a case against there being too many big-little jets. Any change to the current operation would be, in essence, removing the Mesa 900s even if they were immediately reinstating them with the new carrier. USAPA would have more traction, I think, in their attempt to stop that.

Slaphappy 01-05-2010 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by contrail67 (Post 738001)
And here comes XJT. Time to load up on this stock.

XJT can barely pay their own bills, if anyone is Skywest coming in.



Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 738182)
Don't forget Skywest Inc. They have been watching this flying for over a year and have PLENTY of money. CLT 900s to ASA, PHX 900s to Skywest

Why would they split them up, Skywest operates the 900 cheaper than ASA?

Theonemarine 01-05-2010 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 738182)
Don't forget Skywest Inc. They have been watching this flying for over a year and have PLENTY of money. CLT 900s to ASA, PHX 900s to Skywest

You're rightbut I meant in the actual Airways system. Parkers been pretty vocal about reducing the total number of Airways regionals but then, you just never know.

TonyWilliams 01-05-2010 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by PSACFI (Post 738177)
Well in that case I hope some or all the -900s go to US mainline. Wishful thinking I know. :D

Back to reality now, how many -900s are in violation of the USAPA contract?

What about the UA side of things?



AWE/USA is not going to fly -900's. Period. That's just some wet dreams for guys that get paid $20 an hour to fly them.

I don't know what the USAPA contract says. but if it's a 70 or 76 seat limit, that's easy to accomplish with -900's.

bradeku1008 01-05-2010 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by deadstick35 (Post 738183)
I think that is exactly what he is saying.

USAPA has already made a case against there being too many big-little jets. Any change to the current operation would be, in essence, removing the Mesa 900s even if they were immediately reinstating them with the new carrier. USAPA would have more traction, I think, in their attempt to stop that.

Yea, I would hope the CRJ 900's go to mainline. But I highly doubt they even act on them. Airways already has PDT PSA AWAC and Republic that can pick up all the flying out of both CLT and PHX. Would hope they give some of the flying to mainline to bring back all the furloughed pilots there.

teedog 01-05-2010 07:51 AM

To all the MESA employees I wish you the best of luck. This is not a time for people to badger them this is going to be hard times for them a lot of people with families will be losing there jobs, in an economic time that is very difficult.
I wish you the best of luck.

carlomonte 01-05-2010 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 738136)
The only people that are dependent on Mesa is Airways. The question is, who has enough cash to get Mesa's CRJ900 operation? Airways or another regional and under ownership or a scrap yard sale?


Nothing will change in regards to current contracts with delta, united, and usairways. Under reorganization plan they can cherri pick contracts for ch11. As I understand only certain aircraft leases are in ch11 filing.


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