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Navmode 07-03-2014 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by V1 ROT8 (Post 1676821)
Again, a bit sensitive here. I never said anything about being mad at Mesa, or any Mesa pilot, for that matter. I was merely pointing out that his/her post was equally as juvenile. Could he/she not have simply ignored the post, as everyone else seems to have done so far?

And, btw, in case you didn't notice, I never blamed you or any Mesa pilot for anything. I'm fully aware of the harm that Dougweiser and Jerry **ASS have, and would love to continue, to inflict upon OUR careers. If you can't see how ANY aircraft showing up at DFW with "American Eagle" painted on the side would upset an Envoy pilot, then I don't know what else to say to you.

You're fine, I was referring to the post by face biter. I agree with you that it's a slap in the face to L-AE guys; but people keep bringing stuff like that up as flame bait when new hires are excited about not having a commute. We don't disrespect you all in the same way that everyone else smears our name across this forum.

tinman1 07-03-2014 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by V1 ROT8 (Post 1676810)
Wow. Talk about a tattletale. Is he wrong? Did that post slander you or any Mesa pilot in any way? A bit sensitive, aren't we? Hmm... I wonder, why? :rolleyes:

THREE separate Mesa threads have been closed in the past week due to inflammatory remarks and downright childlike behavior. These types make regional pilots as a whole look bad, and the mods have made it clear that those kinds of comments are off limits here. (To clarify, not your comment but the ones in the closed threads)

FaceBiter 07-03-2014 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed (Post 1676806)
@Vagabond is this post consistent with your warnings?

Is this not the exact type of unwarranted, uncalled-for inflammatory behavior you were referring to a few posts back?

Just saying--this guy just won't let his vendetta against Mesa go, and it's making it hard for the rest of us discuss Mesa and Mesa hiring.

Half speed,

I don't see what is remotely inflammatory, uncalled for, or unwarranted in that post.

Please PM me with any further concerns as to not disrupt the discussion.

Thanks,

facebiter

sulkair 07-03-2014 09:24 AM

To me this whole issue is kind of like when your girlfriend starts flirting with another dude and you proceed to summarily kick his @$$. Completely ignoring the fact that she enticed him.

Obviously this is a crushing blow to AE guys, to see their flying farmed out to the lowest bidder. The easy target for their warranted anger, is the Mesa pilot. But that anger is misplaced.

It could be argued that the regular line pilot should know better and refuse to play. But how do you do that when you're several years into a list at a company? Bottom line, you fly what and where they tell you to.

AE anger should be directed at their leaders, their parent company, ALPA, and the industry as a whole. i.e. the girl friend. But that isn't the easy thing to do, and I understand that. It takes clear thought and logic to follow the blame trail to it's true and proper place, and emotion is nearly always in conflict with logic.

kb8018 07-03-2014 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed (Post 1676804)
Quote:





Originally Posted by ATOP40


When you earn $1600 a month, it really isn't.




What percentage of our current new hires do you think have significant parental, spousal, or "previous life/savings" financial support?

It's >50% from what I've seen.

Agreed, so for those that do have the money to spend, how long is the training in Copenhagen? Did people volunteer or end up getting forced to go there? I assume hotel is paid for over there?

ArcherDvr 07-03-2014 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by kb8018 (Post 1677122)
Agreed, so for those that do have the money to spend, how long is the training in Copenhagen? Did people volunteer or end up getting forced to go there? I assume hotel is paid for over there?

They asked for volunteers but I think only 8 out of the 25 got picked and it's based on seniority. Most of the senior people picked it.

ATOP40 07-03-2014 06:04 PM

The airline you fly for has their airplanes purchased by their code share and maintained by the same while being shipped off to a foreign country for training.

What could go wrong?

mjpilot 07-03-2014 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by ATOP40 (Post 1677282)
The airline you fly for has their airplanes purchased by their code share and maintained by the same while being shipped off to a foreign country for training.

What could go wrong?


Does Canada also count as a foreign country?

Navmode 07-03-2014 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by ATOP40 (Post 1677282)
The airline you fly for has their airplanes purchased by their code share and maintained by the same while being shipped off to a foreign country for training.

What could go wrong?

The foreign training is for the crj side, which we own.

Banditopilot 07-03-2014 07:04 PM

I got a class date but cancelled. I have a buddy there is an 8 year cap and he is miserable. No way will I fly a jet for 20k a year.


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