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My problem is not with guys buying the efb, if you want one, knock yourself out. My problem is with the precedent that is being set here. If you want to work as an airline pilot, you now need to invest even more money. It should still be voluntary or provided by the company.

I thought there was a pilot shortage. When will pilots say enough is enough?

We are "required" to supply our own flight case, luggage, initial uniforms, flashlight, watch and cell phone to do our job. Why do you think an ipad should be any different?

logic1

08-19-2014 04:53 PM

Potential new hires, please stop coming to Mesa. Apply and deny to come and when asked say fix your contract. As long as you keep coming there is no reason for a new contract to get done. Please help!

blaine

08-19-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 1708447)

Does anyone know if an Otterbox on the iPad will be incompatible with the gecko mount?

Also, I cannot seem to find the whole dual suction mount kit on Amazon. Anyone have a link? I see the mini, does anyone have an opinion as to which is better?

Not Amazon, but this is the one provided by the company.

Fat Gecko iPad Dual Suction Mount - Marv Golden Pilot Supplies

Beech90

08-19-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by logic1 (Post 1708555)

What's wrong with the contact? I can't imagine it's the worse out there.

Bumbaclot

08-19-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by logic1 (Post 1708555)

Me me me mine mine none for you all for me. I fly jets and want a better contract. But you YOU how dare you want to fly jets and have a better contract. Absolutely ridiculous.

FYI you stated this in another forum:

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Originally Posted by logic1 (Post 1643555)

It's not Ornsteins fault that our contract sucks, it is ours (the pilots) fault. We voted it in. The fault is squarely on our shoulders.

I'm not trying to come after you, I just want you to realize the hilarity of your statements.

Xdashdriver

08-19-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by logic1 (Post 1708555)

The problem isn't unique to Mesa. Several regionals still require you to pay for your own lodging during training which adds up to more than an ipad. Others don't pay full guarantee or don't pay at all during initial new hire training. It all adds up to the same result: fewer dollars in the new hires' pockets.

Paid2fly

08-19-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RV5M (Post 1708501)

Yes, having to buy them is sucks, but that's not what I mean. It's the fact that they've removed the choice. Many employers do this (probably with a little more tact), but to suddenly require a unionized labor force to purchase iPads as a condition of employment must be some sort of violation.

You think that contract violations are something new for JO?

Jvw700

08-19-2014 08:20 PM

I think a lot of you wide eyed new hires are in for a big surprise once your out on the line in suckville! And no it's not unique to Mesa alone but you really don't know how bad it can be until your out of kool aid land and into the real world... Your contract WILL be violated repeatedly! After a while the excitement of flying a jet starts to ware off and you'll start to wonder if it's even worth it! The actual flying is great but everything else you deal with, like not making any money sucks!

Beech90

08-19-2014 08:22 PM

Sorry, but until anyone flys 135 freight, you can't b!tch about a bad contact.

Paid2fly

08-19-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1708560)

What's wrong with the contact? I can't imagine it's the worse out there.

Seriously? You're probably tied for "worst" out there with Gojets, Lakes, and Silver...

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