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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 1509457)
You're still looking at the past 5 years as the norm. Those hired today will not face the same stagnation we did.
Getting to a major quicker is not the only benefit of quick upgrade. The 65k+ pay is a huge benefit. The fact that you get to fly with your favorite Captain every trip is a huge benefit. I don't know about you, but I'd much rather be 2nd or 3rd year Captain at Compass or Mesa than 4 or 5 year FO at XJT, SKYW, or Eagle. I'll believe those people won't face the stagnation when it stops being stagnant. So far nothing has changed. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1509354)
I got hired in October 2003. Upgrade in Feb 2005. Outta there in 2007. And I was not the quickest upgrade nor the quickest to a legacy! Not by a long shot, actually... Many of my peers followed a similar path!
The cycle shifts from carrier to carrier over time. given a certain window, I'd give advice to go to a certain carrier and it has been reasonably accurate. I don't think i'd ever advise someone to go to Mesa, but that time may be coming. Eagle? That has never been a carrier I would advise. My advice, as someone who's made the move: get hired, take the first available upgrade, and get out as soon as you can. If that opportunity is likely to happen fastest at Mesa or Compass right now, then that's where I'd want to get hired today. Good luck. |
So what's the word on when they're going to start interviewing again? Do they take resumes directly or is airlineapps the only way to apply?
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Originally Posted by exwaterski
(Post 1509880)
So what's the word on when they're going to start interviewing again? Do they take resumes directly or is airlineapps the only way to apply?
I got a random call and I wasn't even looking at going back to the airlines. |
I'd just like to know when the classes start up again!
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Hold on - I messed it up.
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Ok, fixed now...
I built a little Spreadsheet to help you guys project upgrade times with the projected growth on the horizon. You basically plug in the variables you think make sense, like staffing levels you expect, and total fleet size, predicted attrition, etc. I'll just let the math speak for itself, good or bad. Keep in mind if you get a negative number under the results side it means that number of guys hired in that time-frame would not have an opportunity to upgrade. Do yourself a favor. Don't plug in more than 10 pilots per plane. These represent truly active pilots, not total pilots, and I don't see that number EVER going above 10, rule 117 notwithstanding. But if you like rosey predictions, and you disagree with me, then bump it up all you want :) Feel free to alter all you want. And by all means point out any errors you find:o |
Dude, nice.
A couple of questions: "Current Status" is 70 airplanes, judging from the Mesa APC profile page that's not inclusive of the 9 900s delivered this summer? Also, APC lists Mesa as having 855 pilots on the seniority list. I guess what I'm saying is we need an update of what "Current Status" is. |
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 1510406)
Dude, nice.
A couple of questions: "Current Status" is 70 airplanes, judging from the Mesa APC profile page that's not inclusive of the 9 900s delivered this summer? Also, APC lists Mesa as having 855 pilots on the seniority list. I guess what I'm saying is we need an update of what "Current Status" is. Let me look at the fleet size again, but I'm pretty sure 70 includes the nine latest 900's |
Just checking. I know that APC numbers are sometimes taken as Gospel, just wanted to double check.
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