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astec 05-07-2014 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by PapaUniform (Post 1638228)
Yes, just a spare. I looked it up in the computer yesterday thinking Mesa might have been covering flying for a wholly-owned, but it is just being used as a spare on downgraded Mesa -900 flights. Today it is scheduled for SAV-CLT-LIT-CLT-SAV (so far.)

I bet airways is enjoying paying off those oversells!

flapshalfspeed 05-07-2014 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1638239)
I bet airways is enjoying paying off those oversells!

Everytime a Mesa 900 CA calls in sick or takes vacation, they're paid at the -200 rate--Airways has saved millions of dollars over the last decade because Mesa keeps those 200s on their certificate.

I don't think Airways minds playing along with Mesa's little contractual scam and buying off a few pax here and there--it keeps their costs down significantly, and as we've seen with Eagle they're willing to play whatever games necessary to keep costs as low as possible.

flapshalfspeed 05-07-2014 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Cyborgmudhen (Post 1638158)
Currently in the 900 course; after sims, we spend a day and a half doing 200 differences training, 'just in case' we wind up having to fly it

Annnnnd so that when you upgrade onto a 700/900 (or, perversely, an E175) when you call in sick or take vacay you'll be paid -200 payrates.

That tiny little differences course costs very little compared to the massive savings on CA sick and vacation pay!!!

Can't blame Mesa for doing this.

logic1 05-07-2014 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed (Post 1638275)
Everytime a Mesa 900 CA calls in sick or takes vacation, they're paid at the -200 rate--Airways has saved millions of dollars over the last decade because Mesa keeps those 200s on their certificate.

I don't think Airways minds playing along with Mesa's little contractual scam and buying off a few pax here and there--it keeps their costs down significantly, and as we've seen with Eagle they're willing to play whatever games necessary to keep costs as low as possible.

Sick calls are paid by the equipment you were scheduled to fly.

Paid2fly 05-07-2014 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed (Post 1638280)
Annnnnd so that when you upgrade onto a 700/900 (or, perversely, an E175) when you call in sick or take vacay you'll be paid -200 payrates.

That tiny little differences course costs very little compared to the massive savings on CA sick and vacation pay!!!

Can't blame Mesa for doing this.





Who should be blamed then?:rolleyes:

logic1 05-08-2014 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1638591)
Who should be blamed then?:rolleyes:

The pilots that voted yes on this contract!
That is who to blame everything on....that's is in the contact.
The company is to blame for not following things that are in the contract. Pretty simple.

N4niner206 05-08-2014 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1638239)
I bet airways is enjoying paying off those oversells!

Right because they would rather pay off 79 passengers for a cancellation than to pay off 29 passengers who couldn't be accommodated on a 50-seat spare... :rolleyes:


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