Search
Notices
Mesa Airlines Regional Airline

Mesa contract

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-18-2016, 06:34 AM
  #11  
Gets Weekends Off
 
iFlyRC's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,198
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
How is GoJet my problem? It was a real problem when they created it but since then, it hasn't been a problem for us at all.
Wasn't Go-Jet created to whipsaw your pilot group?
iFlyRC is offline  
Old 01-18-2016, 06:51 AM
  #12  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,061
Default

Originally Posted by iFlyRC View Post
Wasn't Go-Jet created to whipsaw your pilot group?
GoJet was created because AA wouldn't allow their regional affiliates other than Eagle to fly larger than 50 seat RJs for anyone else and TSH had recently won a bid award for CRJ-700 flying. Granted, they wanted the pilot group to fly them for unacceptable rates. When it came up to a vote whether to allow TSA/GJ to be on one seniority list (like RAH), our pilot group voted it down since many junior pilots went over to start GoJet and would get super seniority once the lists were officially merged. That was combined with it undercutting the ongoing negotiations at TSA.

But, the effort backfired. The TSA pilot group still got significant gains in spite of the attempt to whipsaw. The only thing that continues to hurt pilot group was not getting the 76-seater on property. I don't foresee that being too big of an issue because, in my opinion, TSH will have to start consolidating certificates as the pilot shortage accelerates. If 2 of your 3 certificates are having a hard time recruiting pilots, you allow unprofitable contracts to expire and merge airlines. The TSA/Compass contracts are very similar. From what I've heard from GJ, they are negotiating up to ours on top of offering 300% premium pick-ups. From what I've heard from our union, there are more soft pay things (i.e. min day) coming with PBS. GoJet hasn't caused current day TSA any harm.
CBreezy is offline  
Old 01-18-2016, 06:53 AM
  #13  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Realtalk's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 391
Default

Originally Posted by CAflygirl View Post
Just wondering in what aspects your contract is "behind" other regionals (duty rigs, guarantee, days off etc)

Are there any rumors as to when you will be voting on a new TA? Any pay raises and improvements in the forseeable future?
What's the general length of time new hires are on rsv/average upgrade time in either CRJ or EJet?

-thanks!
Spare yourself the pain and suffering.
The answer to all of your questions is no. Pilots on Obama care? Geezus H Christ.
Realtalk is offline  
Old 01-18-2016, 07:02 AM
  #14  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 98
Default

Min days off at envoy are 11 not 8.
Justrun is offline  
Old 01-18-2016, 10:05 AM
  #15  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
Default

Originally Posted by Aviatrx View Post
Uuuuhhhh. I think the OP was asking about Mesa, not Envoy AMF

Whoops! Ignore everything I said!
AdiosMikeFox is offline  
Old 01-18-2016, 08:19 PM
  #16  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 219
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
GoJet was created because AA wouldn't allow their regional affiliates other than Eagle to fly larger than 50 seat RJs for anyone else and TSH had recently won a bid award for CRJ-700 flying. Granted, they wanted the pilot group to fly them for unacceptable rates. When it came up to a vote whether to allow TSA/GJ to be on one seniority list (like RAH), our pilot group voted it down since many junior pilots went over to start GoJet and would get super seniority once the lists were officially merged. That was combined with it undercutting the ongoing negotiations at TSA.

But, the effort backfired. The TSA pilot group still got significant gains in spite of the attempt to whipsaw. The only thing that continues to hurt pilot group was not getting the 76-seater on property. I don't foresee that being too big of an issue because, in my opinion, TSH will have to start consolidating certificates as the pilot shortage accelerates. If 2 of your 3 certificates are having a hard time recruiting pilots, you allow unprofitable contracts to expire and merge airlines. The TSA/Compass contracts are very similar. From what I've heard from GJ, they are negotiating up to ours on top of offering 300% premium pick-ups. From what I've heard from our union, there are more soft pay things (i.e. min day) coming with PBS. GoJet hasn't caused current day TSA any harm.

Wow, I am a gojet pilot and never expected any sensible talk about us on here.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
SevereClear1 is offline  
Old 01-18-2016, 08:30 PM
  #17  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 233
Default

Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
Is Mesa's contract written on TP?
Bar napkins
FrequentFly3r is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
winglet
Regional
19
07-14-2017 03:36 PM
nwa757
American
178
01-10-2015 10:54 AM
aviator921
Regional
12
06-13-2008 12:42 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices